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Hmm I have no use for this...
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Some of the people are posting crap that is the exact opposite of what the video says.

Its comes with a remote with a accelerometer.

RaspberryPi is a single core 700mhz, GPU is good at video not at a games. No remote. No WiFi.
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by jjsoviet View Post

Uhm, no. This dongle has a dual-core TI OMAP 4 processor (possibly 4430/4460) and so it can run Android very well. And it does scale the apps to 1080p resolution, which in the demos makes for a usable experience. Come a more tablet-oriented interface like Ice Cream Sandwich, this will be a viable alternative to HTPCs and set-top boxes with the added bonus of portability.

No, it is no where near powerful enough for a the typical content people play on an HTPC. It could probably play a DVD rip pretty well, but there's no way your going to play blu-rays, or blu-ray rips off this thing. There's no way your going to play high quality 1080p mkv files either.

I have a hard enough time trying to play these types of files on my netbook which is more powerful than this thing.

That's great that it can scale apps to 1080p but really its not going to make much of a difference considering the original resolution is something around 800 by 600. Also, like I already said, most people don't have touch screen TV's. Your going to have to perform touch actions with a mouse and cursor which is going to suck. Doesn't really matter if we get a "more tablet oriented interface" because HDTV's are not tablets.

Only thing this is going to do is turn normal TV's into "smart tv's" which to be honest suck pretty badly considering they lack support for a lot of commonly used formats. At this point devices like this are really nothing more than toys until they start getting more format support like you would get on a windows based HTPC.
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No, it is no where near powerful enough for a the typical content people play on an HTPC. It could probably play a DVD rip pretty well, but there's no way your going to play blu-rays, or blu-ray rips off this thing. There's no way your going to play high quality 1080p mkv files either.
I have a hard enough time trying to play these types of files on my netbook which is more powerful than this thing.
That's great that it can scale apps to 1080p but really its not going to make much of a difference considering the original resolution is something around 800 by 600. Also, like I already said, most people don't have touch screen TV's. Your going to have to perform touch actions with a mouse and cursor which is going to suck. Doesn't really matter if we get a "more tablet oriented interface" because HDTV's are not tablets.
Only thing this is going to do is turn normal TV's into "smart tv's" which to be honest suck pretty badly considering they lack support for a lot of commonly used formats. At this point devices like this are really nothing more than toys until they start getting more format support like you would get on a windows based HTPC.

Tegra 2 can play 720p and the Mali-400 can eat 1080p content for breakfast. The TI OMAP is somewhere between those SoC's so it should handle 1080p MKVs and other formats at that resolution. And what I meant by the interface is that it's gonna use ICS as baseline - it's already like a desktop in terms of UI (bottom bar, file explorer, etc.) just like Honeycomb, which by the way functions well in a M/KB environment because I use an ASUS Transformer.

As for format support, most Android media players can handle what Windows can - MKV, MP4, FLAC, OGG, etc. are available.
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People here seem to always forget that not everyone is capable of putting a PC/HTPC together and there aren't that many vendors that provide what you'd call a good HTPC.
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Tegra 2 can play 720p and the Mali-400 can eat 1080p content for breakfast. The TI OMAP is somewhere between those SoC's so it should handle 1080p MKVs and other formats at that resolution. And what I meant by the interface is that it's gonna use ICS as baseline - it's already like a desktop in terms of UI (bottom bar, file explorer, etc.) just like Honeycomb, which by the way functions well in a M/KB environment because I use an ASUS Transformer.
As for format support, most Android media players can handle what Windows can - MKV, MP4, FLAC, OGG, etc. are available.

It has a SGX 540, which has better video decoder then the Tegra 2 GPU. Plays h.264 fine.

People need to really stop calling this a HTPC period, its not, its not even claiming to be one. Its being a promoted as a you are at a hotel and wanna watch Netflix on the TV.
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My minds hurting, how does this work? If you can access the internet/market place and can download stuff, where does it actually download and store the downloads too?

I'm guessing a TV needs both a HDMI & a USB port close by for this to work?
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No, it is no where near powerful enough for a the typical content people play on an HTPC. It could probably play a DVD rip pretty well, but there's no way your going to play blu-rays, or blu-ray rips off this thing. There's no way your going to play high quality 1080p mkv files either.
I have a hard enough time trying to play these types of files on my netbook which is more powerful than this thing.
That's great that it can scale apps to 1080p but really its not going to make much of a difference considering the original resolution is something around 800 by 600. Also, like I already said, most people don't have touch screen TV's. Your going to have to perform touch actions with a mouse and cursor which is going to suck. Doesn't really matter if we get a "more tablet oriented interface" because HDTV's are not tablets.
Only thing this is going to do is turn normal TV's into "smart tv's" which to be honest suck pretty badly considering they lack support for a lot of commonly used formats. At this point devices like this are really nothing more than toys until they start getting more format support like you would get on a windows based HTPC.

This have the same chip as a Galaxys Nexus, and the Nexus runs 1080P videos with no lag, so I'm sure this wont have a problem for that.
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Some of the people are posting crap that is the exact opposite of what the video says.
Its comes with a remote with a accelerometer.
RaspberryPi is a single core 700mhz, GPU is good at video not at a games. No remote. No WiFi.

Raspberry Pi costs $25 ( Most likely going to be 5 times cheaper than this dongle.) Is a none profit charity which is designed to provide cheap computer to as many people as possible. It's not designed to be a " uber pwnage gaming rig " it's designed to teach kids how to program. In Britain there has been a 20% drop in people applying for computer programming/computer science at university just last year alone. This charity was made to inspire the next generation and increase the acceleration of development in technology. Not some dongle which is designed for kids to play mindless games on.
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My minds hurting, how does this work? If you can access the internet/market place and can download stuff, where does it actually download and store the downloads too?
I'm guessing a TV needs both a HDMI & a USB port close by for this to work?

USB extension cables are cheap and plentiful, and I think you only need it for power.

It would store downloads to itself.. much like an android phone. Only this one has no screen.
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