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post #11111 of 25490
5/24/12 at 9:06pm
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I've been watching tons of W/Cing vids on Youtube and most say that the order of your loop doesn't really affect temps that much (Linus said the difference between the hottest and coldest water in the loop is less than a degree). Apparently you are just supposed to set it up however is aesthetically pleasing to you. I'm still a noob to all this though so I definitely have more research to do.
As far as the mobo blocks, I just like the way they look (plus the SB-E mobos do have trouble with cooling because of the limited heatsink space around the added RAM slots). I think the MCP655 should be plenty to run this loop, don't you?

Water temp overall as a mathematical average isn't changed much by loop order but hot water being dumped into the cpu will affect cpu temp. You can't avoid that and that my friend is not averaged water temp. The rule of thumb is to give your cpu the coolest water and highest flow first if you can. From the cpu onward it will be a uphill battle. I've run different loop orders due to the components I had and case limitations so sometimes it's unavoidable. But if you can, you should feed the cpu the cleanest water you can.

Looking at that pic again, I would run parallel on the gpus with tubing for best flow. MB blocks are restrictive and it just makes life hell on a pump with typically lower head, so I'd run a top on it. Skip the MCP655, and get the Alphacool Vario instead. You won't insta void your warranty that way.

Btw, stop watching Linus' vids, pls.
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5/24/12 at 10:36pm
Loop temp equalization is the most annoying thing anyone says. If temp equalization was true and it didnt matter what order you set ur loop in, then we all might as well just run it through all the rads first than just link all the gpus and cpu together. This in itself proves equalization is a falsehood that needs to be forgotten. Water temp will rise after going through a block pure and simple, if you send that warmed up water to another block without a rad inbetween then you can not possibly get as low a temperature as you could by sending it through a rad first.

Remember, water can only get as cold as ambiant temperature (delta being the difference). If you get ur water to room temp by sending through all ur rads first, by the time it gets through ur remaining blocks the water temp will be much higher when entering the pump. That heat has to go somwhere and can only be dispersed through rads.

I prefer using 1 360 rad for each cpu/gpu block. Res-pump-rad-gpu/cpu-rad-gpu/gpu-rad-etc. This requires more connections and tubing but provides maximum results.
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5/25/12 at 12:05am
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How about this: Had to RMA my Sapphire 7950 reference after a week because of artefacts at stock clocks. Took a month to get it back from Hong Kong. Open it up, heat sink is attached by ONE screw and the other 3 are broken and wont screw back onto the heat sink no matter how hard I tried. Send it back AGAIN for another month of RMA processing... NO ON BOARD VIDEO (at the time)
What I did: As soon as I RMA'd the reference, I went and (locally) bought a Sapphire OC 7950 dual fan, which I have loved ever since I got it, and sold the reference on eBay upon return. It was great that the prices all went down on the whole range too over the time my card was being replaced, because it meant that I was lucky enough to lose 2 months of my original card AND around $200 in postage and lower sale price *sarcasm*
My point? Unless you get a replacement from the store that you bought the card from, RMA's are a pain in the ass. I don't think that there is a way around that.

You bought 7950 OC dual fan? Fan only?
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post #11114 of 25490
5/25/12 at 4:47am
This talk of loop equalization has made me question my loop order, my order would be 360rad - res - pump - 7970 - 7970 - 140rad - CPU - the first rad..

The 140 should disperse quite a bit of heat before it gets dumped into my cpu, right?
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5/25/12 at 6:14am
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I don't know, I had a month and a bit RMA for my 580 in February, and I really enjoyed that time. It was great to take a break from gaming, I only had my laptop to use and I ended up doing a lot of things I never would have done if I'd had my PC.

my brother's XFX was sent in the week before black friday, got there in a week, diagnosed as faulty, and then we waited 2 months before they sent him a 6850 to replace his 5830, which was defective out of the box (heat sink was loose and shorting something, causing the card to randomly cut off and on.) he wanted a 6870 as it was the same shader count but i explained VLIW5 was crap, and the 6850 was better.

this time next week if I have the funds, I'll look at a 7970 w/ enough display ports to use all 3 screens without the display clock issue, and prolly give my 7950 to my brother, which he runs one 1600x900 screen, so he should be able to run everything on ultra no problem.
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5/25/12 at 6:20am
Happy w/ this one so far: smile.gif

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5/25/12 at 6:21am
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I've been watching tons of W/Cing vids on Youtube and most say that the order of your loop doesn't really affect temps that much (Linus said the difference between the hottest and coldest water in the loop is less than a degree). Apparently you are just supposed to set it up however is aesthetically pleasing to you. I'm still a noob to all this though so I definitely have more research to do.
As far as the mobo blocks, I just like the way they look (plus the SB-E mobos do have trouble with cooling because of the limited heatsink space around the added RAM slots). I think the MCP655 should be plenty to run this loop, don't you?

i'd set it up so there is less pressure on the pump...
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5/25/12 at 6:34am
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I know this isn't the right section for this but what do you guys think about this proposed loop setup for my new build?
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This is a quick MSPaint mockup. Flow is from upper 5 1/4 bay res to pump in the bottom of the bay, to the first 240 rad behind the second 240 rad, into the lower 7970, up to the upper 7970 and on to the upper 360 rad, back down to the mosfet block, to the CPU block, to the chipset block, and then finally back to the res.
I'm hoping this setup will allow me to really test the limits of these cards and this CPU.... thumb.gif
hey mate i can tell you that there is little to no difference in which way the loop order will go. 

speaking from experience in my cosmos 2, i had my loop going res,pump,360,cpu,120,2x790s then to the 240 down the bottom and back in the res.

how ever now i have it going from res,pump,240 then both gpus then the 120 and the cpu then 360 and barely noticed anything. pretty sure its user preference and what looks better to you. just of course make sure that you go res/pump always pretty much. 

People will have their own opinions but just saying from experience what has happened to me and didn't find any problems.. 

PM me if you want some more info biggrin.gif

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5/25/12 at 7:05am
Another MSI Card added to newegg for $599. (well re-activated)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127670
Edited by SkateZilla - 5/25/12 at 7:10am
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5/25/12 at 7:19am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrazh View Post

You bought 7950 OC dual fan? Fan only?

Nah man, the whole card! The reference card has single fan, the OC has dual fans and a custom heat sink.
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