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Is there any change to the actual 7970 GHz edition other than a BIOS providing higher clocks speeds and a GPU that has a better layer of Silicon?
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Originally Posted by BradleyW View Post

Is there any change to the actual 7970 GHz edition other than a BIOS providing higher clocks speeds and a GPU that has a better layer of Silicon?

According to AnandTech
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In fact the hardware is absolutely identical right down to the GPU – there have been no changes to the PCB, the cooling, or the VRMs, and even the Tahiti GPU is the same revision that has been shipping in the 7970 since the beginning. Everything the 7970GE adds to the 7970 is accomplished through chip binning and new Catalyst and BIOS features specific to the 7970GE.

Source

It uses the same hardware, but with binned chips and optimized bios/drivers.

My question would be how does this compare to the likes of the XFX R7970 Black Edition Double Dissipation that was released with binned chips and 1ghz default clock speed. The only difference being the Power Tune Boost.
Edited by hyp36rmax - 6/23/12 at 6:02pm
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To overclockers in general, it's probably not worth getting the GHz Edition over the regular 7970. 

The main difference, like someone else pointed out, is that Tahiti die is binned for lower leakage and should use a little less power than a lower binned Tahiti die. 

 

So if I was buying a reference 7970 today, it would be the regular one. 

It remains to be seen how the higher binned GHz Edition does on water. 

I suspect it wouldn't do any better with liquid nitrogen. 

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I have a couple questions regarding the overclocking of my MSI 7970. How do I know for sure the the -xcl tag is in affect in afterburner? I have added it restarted then removed it. Also what are the highest safe voltages for the Core and Memory? I believe i have a 1050mv card, what do you think my overclocks could reach? I seems if I go above 1150mhz core or 1550mhz memory I run into issues. I have a water cooling setup, just been to lazy to install it. So maybe if I can get this card cranked up it will convince me to tackle the water cooling.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Penguin View Post

To overclockers in general, it's probably not worth getting the GHz Edition over the regular 7970. 
The main difference, like someone else pointed out, is that Tahiti die is binned for lower leakage and should use a little less power than a lower binned Tahiti die. 

So if I was buying a reference 7970 today, it would be the regular one. 
It remains to be seen how the higher binned GHz Edition does on water
I suspect it wouldn't do any better with liquid nitrogen. 

This is what I am mostly concerned with. I need reference 7970's for my EK blocks so do I go with the new GHz edition cards or do I get something like the Sapphire OC versions? I just don't think the GHz cards will perform any better under water than the binned older cards...
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post


This is what I am mostly concerned with. I need reference 7970's for my EK blocks so do I go with the new GHz edition cards or do I get something like the Sapphire OC versions? I just don't think the GHz cards will perform any better under water than the binned older cards...

If the GHz Edition does clock higher than the regular 7970 under water, it probably won't be much more. 

It's just better binning, not a revised GPU die or anything like that. 

Let's say a regular 7970 under water can do 1300 MHz core. 

Would the GHz Edition do around 1400 MHz? 

I don't think so. 

It'll just use a bit less power at 1300 MHz than the lower binned version does. 

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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

This is what I am mostly concerned with. I need reference 7970's for my EK blocks so do I go with the new GHz edition cards or do I get something like the Sapphire OC versions? I just don't think the GHz cards will perform any better under water than the binned older cards...

I'm running the Sapphire OC Edition which is a Non Ref card at 1250/1650/1.2000v Stable.

Its a Non Ref card, But on a Ref PCB so that can also run the Blocks if I want to.
Also runs an extra vram chip from the Ref card.

Just a thought.wink.gif

Going to go that way when can afford it.

Later:D
Edited by Irocing - 6/23/12 at 8:24pm
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This is what I am mostly concerned with. I need reference 7970's for my EK blocks so do I go with the new GHz edition cards or do I get something like the Sapphire OC versions? I just don't think the GHz cards will perform any better under water than the binned older cards...
If the GHz Edition does clock higher than the regular 7970 under water, it probably won't be much more. 
It's just better binning, not a revised GPU die or anything like that. 
Let's say a regular 7970 under water can do 1300 MHz core. 
Would the GHz Edition do around 1400 MHz? 
I don't think so. 
It'll just use a bit less power at 1300 MHz than the lower binned version does. 

Not to argue, but you're spreading wrong information. It's not "better" binned. They're simply binned to ensure that they can run at 1GHz at stock voltage. Stock voltage of the chip is still decided by the ASIC%. Lower ASIC means higher stock voltage (which typically means better water OCer, but not guaranteed). Higher ASIC means lower stock voltage (which typically means better air OCer, but not guaranteed). There's no promise of better OCing, or better power usage.
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