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680 isnt a huge leap but definitely an upgrade.

it is? I think is more of a sidegrade. I dont know. I doubt many people would want to trade 680 for 7970, at least locally. 590 is an option, but the vram........ ahh well, thank for the advice.
Edited by Testier - 9/9/12 at 5:24pm
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I am pretty sure you can go higher clockwise with water.

Forget about what I said on higher clock room. I think it is a wall. The card have a high asic of 84.4. I think that the issue. And the low stock voltage.......... It might be just after 125mv increase, it does not have a big effect, or am I wrong?
Edited by Testier - 9/9/12 at 5:35pm
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I am looking for a sidegrade to nvidia. I want physx for BL2. I am thinking of a 680 reference. I dont like 670s so I would like to avoid that.

680 isnt a huge leap but definitely an upgrade.

It's not an upgrade, its a sidegrade. 680 = 7970 (or GHz Edition) overclock for overclock on single monitor setups. On multi monitor setups, the 7970 takes a pretty large lead.

If he's wanting PhysX though, the 680 would definitely be his best option coming from a 7950 or 7970. Otherwise he could just get a GTS 450 or something and keep his 7900 card and do the PhysX hack.
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It's not an upgrade, its a sidegrade. 680 = 7970 (or GHz Edition) overclock for overclock on single monitor setups. On multi monitor setups, the 7970 takes a pretty large lead.
If he's wanting PhysX though, the 680 would definitely be his best option coming from a 7950 or 7970. Otherwise he could just get a GTS 450 or something and keep his 7900 card and do the PhysX hack.

On the second thought, I will keep my 7970. Thanks for everyone who helped.
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It's not an upgrade, its a sidegrade. 680 = 7970 (or GHz Edition) overclock for overclock on single monitor setups. On multi monitor setups, the 7970 takes a pretty large lead.
If he's wanting PhysX though, the 680 would definitely be his best option coming from a 7950 or 7970. Otherwise he could just get a GTS 450 or something and keep his 7900 card and do the PhysX hack.

Every one knows the 680 got the upper hand and on the 7970. It is a notch up but nothing too dramatic. When amd has to drop the price and overclock the 7970, you know they needed something to make it competitive. When people are pouring into the marketplace and on ebay you see "selling 7970, upgraded to 680" or "trade 7970 for 680" you know the 680 is better. Now, its not perfect and the 7970 is better for larger resolutions and I strongly feel its scaling is a lot better in two or more cards. Overclocked, a 680 will blow the 7970 1ghz. Its an upgrade, something better. Is it leaps and bounds better? No, but its better, thus an upgrade. its like switching from ls6 to a z06, not a huge increase but noticeable.

As far as the 590, its definitely better than one 7970 or one 680, but its hotter, you have to contend with sli (when its an issue), consumes more power, and you're only upgrade path is another 590. 1.5gb of vram becomes a factor with higher resolutions. The 6990 is a better card in terms of performance but you have to contend with crossfire and the heat and noise. When one 6990 is noisier than two 590s, you wanna think twice about running a stock 6990.

I'm not a fan boy of either side. I recognize a cards strengths and weakness and I make logical recommendations based on what the user needs. As I mentioned to Testier early, its a great card but if he's looking for the next step (and I stress step not level wink.gif) the 680 would be it.

Personally, i would keep it and add another 7970 down the road.
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After a number of 7970 duds, I humbly dropped down to the 7950 only to find how supreme of a card it is. I've been testing it all day and found 1285MHz to be the highest, most stable core clock. Anything past this even 1290MHz will artifact. The memory was cranked to 1650MHz and I have not yet found my memory maximum. Voltage was set to 1.299 biggrin.gif and fan speed cranked to 75% to control the heat. Temperature hovered around the high 60s to low 70s during 3DMark 11 and Heaven. Keep in mind that at 75% speed it is annoyingly loud and I won't be running this 24/7 or even during games as I don't really need the extra performance.

Spec for spec, I've got to have one of the highest 3DMark 11 and Heaven benchmark scores among 7950 owners




Just wanted to drop in and show off the performance of this Godzilla of a card thumb.gif
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It's not an upgrade, its a sidegrade. 680 = 7970 (or GHz Edition) overclock for overclock on single monitor setups. On multi monitor setups, the 7970 takes a pretty large lead.
If he's wanting PhysX though, the 680 would definitely be his best option coming from a 7950 or 7970. Otherwise he could just get a GTS 450 or something and keep his 7900 card and do the PhysX hack.

Every one knows the 680 got the upper hand and on the 7970. It is a notch up but nothing too dramatic. When amd has to drop the price and overclock the 7970, you know they needed something to make it competitive. When people are pouring into the marketplace and on ebay you see "selling 7970, upgraded to 680" or "trade 7970 for 680" you know the 680 is better. Now, its not perfect and the 7970 is better for larger resolutions and I strongly feel its scaling is a lot better in two or more cards. Overclocked, a 680 will blow the 7970 1ghz. Its an upgrade, something better. Is it leaps and bounds better? No, but its better, thus an upgrade. its like switching from ls6 to a z06, not a huge increase but noticeable.

As far as the 590, its definitely better than one 7970 or one 680, but its hotter, you have to contend with sli (when its an issue), consumes more power, and you're only upgrade path is another 590. 1.5gb of vram becomes a factor with higher resolutions. The 6990 is a better card in terms of performance but you have to contend with crossfire and the heat and noise. When one 6990 is noisier than two 590s, you wanna think twice about running a stock 6990.

I'm not a fan boy of either side. I recognize a cards strengths and weakness and I make logical recommendations based on what the user needs. As I mentioned to Testier early, its a great card but if he's looking for the next step (and I stress step not level wink.gif) the 680 would be it.

Personally, i would keep it and add another 7970 down the road.

Actually, that hasn't been the issue since 12.6 drivers. The GHz 7970 and the 680 stock for stock trade blows back and forth. Overclocked for overclocked, they also trade blows. The 680 clocks higher, the 7970 scales better with clock speeds. Roughly a 1200MHz 7970 = a 1300MHz 680 (roughly).

If we were talking about older drivers, then sure....the 680 was a step up, not much....but slightly. The only time the 680 is really a step up NOW, is if you're playing BF3 or some other Nvidia optimized game. Overall, on average, the two cards trade blows back and forth.

I've been wanting to tinker with a 680 for quite a while, and I agree....I am not a fanboy of either side (my last card was a 580). But to be perfectly honest, with the performance of the 7970, I just can't justify getting rid of it (yet).
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Actually, that hasn't been the issue since 12.6 drivers. The GHz 7970 and the 680 stock for stock trade blows back and forth. Overclocked for overclocked, they also trade blows. The 680 clocks higher, the 7970 scales better with clock speeds. Roughly a 1200MHz 7970 = a 1300MHz 680 (roughly).
If we were talking about older drivers, then sure....the 680 was a step up, not much....but slightly. The only time the 680 is really a step up NOW, is if you're playing BF3 or some other Nvidia optimized game. Overall, on average, the two cards trade blows back and forth.
I've been wanting to tinker with a 680 for quite a while, and I agree....I am not a fanboy of either side (my last card was a 580). But to be perfectly honest, with the performance of the 7970, I just can't justify getting rid of it (yet).

Amd has a head start on drivers and that's what I hate about Nvidia (late to the party).

I'm running Eyefinity so the clear choice was the 7970. I even considered a 690 but I got three 7970s for the same cash biggrin.gif

Glad to hear current drivers are pumping out more performance thumb.gif. But, I know Amd drivers are finicky so I'll see what happens in the next few days and weeks.
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I am wondering how much cash can I get if I down grade my u2410. Dont get wrong, U2410 is awesome, but.....,.... I will probably stick with it in the end though.
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After a number of 7970 duds, I humbly dropped down to the 7950 only to find how supreme of a card it is. I've been testing it all day and found 1285MHz to be the highest, most stable core clock. Anything past this even 1290MHz will artifact. The memory was cranked to 1650MHz and I have not yet found my memory maximum. Voltage was set to 1.299 biggrin.gif and fan speed cranked to 75% to control the heat. Temperature hovered around the high 60s to low 70s during 3DMark 11 and Heaven. Keep in mind that at 75% speed it is annoyingly loud and I won't be running this 24/7 or even during games as I don't really need the extra performance.
Spec for spec, I've got to have one of the highest 3DMark 11 and Heaven benchmark scores among 7950 owners


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Impressive! thumb.gif
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