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ok, first problem...monitor won't wake up from sleep! After some googling, people are saying it's an Afterburner problem but I don't even have that installed. Damn. Could it be an overclocking issue? Or maybe a driver issue? Idk...

Also just noticed in CCC the "Power Control Settings" setting went from 20% to 0% after this. No idea what's going on here.
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Guys, I'm thinking about getting a 7950 but have no idea which one.
Sapphire Ref:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102962
Powercolor PCS+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131458
Powercolor Ref:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131457
MSI Ref:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127651
I'm leaning towards the Powercolor PCS+, but does anybody know of the quality of powercolor? And how is there RMA service compared to others?
Thanks!redface.gif

the PCS+ is just an non ref cooler the pcb looks the same from the back
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ok guys I really need some help hee does anyone know of a radeon bios editor that works on the 7970 bioses rbe seems to be in limbo atm since he cant spend time on it.

Very Important!!!
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Nothing works at the moment.
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For those with problems here are some of my experiences to-date:

 

Crysis has serious driver issues, as do many other games.

 

Using CCC only for the Power Control settings (set to 20%+, of course :D), and Trixx, the system was reasonably stable. It seemed to be mainly driver issues that were affecting (or so I hope) I am also using Speedfan 4.45 in lieu of MSI Afterburner to show my GPU temp in the system tray. Trixx also has a (tiny) Windows Sidebar gadget that shows all relevant info, and can be set to 20% Opaque and Always On Top.

 

The I wanted the nice on screen display of frame rate and temp, so I decided to install afterburner, the latest Beta. And boy did the s**T hit the fan! Problem after problem after problem. Screen locks, hard system locks, and continual screen blanks and Driver Resets. It didn't seem to matter what I did to the settings, clocks, voltages. No combination would provide a stable setting. Interestingly also, when hitting the AB Reset button to try the defaults, it set voltage that was too low. ie 1049, whereas Trixx has my card at 1170. (GPU-Z reports my card as 85.4% ASIC)

 

So not much new there that hasn't been reported already. I'm hoping that my card isn't faulty and it is just some very immature drivers. It is a whole new architecture on the 79xx series, so fingers crossed we will see some substantial and tangible improvements with the drivers and SOON please AMD. (Weren't there some pretty bad driver issues back around the first 5xxx releases, the 8.x drivers?)

 

Summary:

It seems that aside from each cards individual O/C limits and behaviour, one must be patient as an early adopter for the driver issues that show as artifacts and instability with loading or playing games. But if you, like me had many serious stability issues just in the Windows 2D environment, then my personal recommendation is to not use AB; at least until they get their new release for the 79xx series out of Beta.

 

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Edit: Update 1:

 

Good news: Just installed Dirt 2 (Steam sale $5). The Auto Graphics set everything to High. I changed everything to Ultra, with 8XAA and V-Sync off. I thought surely this will stutter or crash. But no bloody way, it ran smooth as butter! I even had to turn V-Sync back on due to screen tearing!

 

So I play it for an hour, it's a really warm day here, ambient about 30ish C, and the card sits at 69 with the fan at 55% Just audible, but not annoying over the game sounds. 40% would be inaudible, but it would hit the high 70's then, no doubt.

 

Bad News. So I exit the game and then the browser scrolling seems sluggish... the driver does the windows reset thing about 3 times in 5 minutes, then finally I get a hard lock, with screen still on. Even the reset button wouldn't work. I had to physically power off the PSU yikes!!!

 

So I don't know - it can play a game but crashes in Windows??? Should I return the card, or are we convinced all this is really driver related?

 

End edit/

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Edit: Update 2:

 

Thanks to Ken1649's excellent advice, I tried some more benches with only CCC and Trixx. As much as I love Speedfan, I didn't think that just reading a temperature sensor would cause a conflict, since it's not making any changes. IMHO AB needs an update before I touch it again, I know some people use it and it's fine for them, but there are many reports with problems similar to what I experienced, so there must be something going on.

 

I am currently running 1000core/1500mem/1200vcore. Obviously there is way more headroom, but I'm taking things slowly. My ASIC is 85.4% for whatever that's worth.

 

So the good news is that I have run 2 more series of benchmarks, and used the PC in Windows for about an hour since then. It's a very hot day here; the ambient is well into the mid 30's (high 90's). Idling at 63 deg C!!!

Edit 2.1: That was when using Firefox. Just went away for a bit, and came back it was idling at 47 with fan at 50%. Phew that's better!

 

And not a single problem, you beautiful lovely Sapphire card!!! (And that's the way it should be - remember you can buy an Xbox 360 and a PS3 and a Wii for the price of one of these cards!!!)

 

So to the good stuff: here are the benchmark results for Farcry 2 and Dirt 2. As I explained to Ken, I will do some benches on more demanding and recent games later. Batman, Metro and others. But knowing the driver's immaturity (No it can't run Crysis! lol) I'm sticking with what is good for now.

 

Dirt 2:

All settings Ultra/Highest. DX11. 1920x1080

Built-in Benchmark (in Graphics Options at the bottom)

Avg 147, Minimum 111.

(I thought I uploaded the image to Steam but must have hit cancel by mistake :s)

 

Farcry 2:

All setting Ultra/Highest. DX10.

Built-in Benchmark Ranch Small (File FC2BenchmarkTool.exe in \Users\Username\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\far cry 2\bin)

 

Farcry 2 Benchmark.JPG

 

 

Just for a fun comparison, the latest Farcry 2 bench I could quickly find on Tom's was for the Nvidia Geforce GTX 285 SLI (2x1024 MB), which ran 83.2 on High, not Ultra. I re-ran mine on High:

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Farcry 2 Benchmark. High.JPG

 

 

 

 

I'm sure there will be more problems, but I wanted to share a bit of good news, because I am seeing a lot of frustrated and disappointed people out there!

 

Edit 2.2:

Just finished playing Farcry2 for about 2 hours straight, hovered around the 70*C mark. Not one glitch of any kind. Windows stable. Yay (touchwood) Only comment is I decided to back the AA down to 4X only because there was the occasional frame rate drop when driving. And I forgot just how beautiful a game it is! The weather and fire effects, the swaying grass and incredible soundscape. They came so close to the perfect game, if it wasn't for those blasted regenerating checkpoints grrr!

 

End edit/

 

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(pointless gripe: payed $700+ in Australia for a Sapphire, now the "cheapy" MSI and HIS cards are coming out bundled with Dirt3. I emailed Sapphire and the lady told me that I could join the club and get a free copy of crapware Drivesweeper "worth" $9.95... umm great... POO Sapphire!!!!!!!!!! :s)

 

Footnote: I disable Windows Aero for all games. Does everyone do this?


Edited by chillgreg - 2/5/12 at 12:47am
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That's expected. GPU(s) can only take instructions from 1 authority. More than 1 = crash. LOL

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If you check the 3DMark11 thread where Derek posted. Someone got over 12K with the single 7970.... pretty sweet thumb.gif
     
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Either OCCT 3.1 or 4.1.
One of the few programs that have error checking and stress the card heavyly.

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HOw long should i run the test for?? and also how would i know if it is stable? should i actively look for artifacting etc?

i want to make sure it is stable for BF3 ultra, crysis 2 DX11 smile.gif
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If you check the 3DMark11 thread where Derek posted. Someone got over 12K with the single 7970.... pretty sweet thumb.gif


ummm how's 15063 sound?

443

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1559&page=3

 

450

 

Those guys are crazy man!!! wheee.gif

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That's expected. GPU(s) can only take instructions from 1 authority. More than 1 = crash. LOL



True, but aren't CCC and AB/Trixx all "authorities"? Do people disable or uninstall CCC when running other O/C programs?

 

I also wonder if having multiple programs accessing the temperature sensors at the same time affects anything eg CCC, Trixx, GPU-z , Speedfan.

 

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