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my 7970's wont Crossfire. so i RMA'ed them. they are sending me 2 R9 280X ... how they do this. my 7970's were 299$ each, the r9 280x's are 487$ each. good company to use their PC builder, no questions on the RMA, Ibuypower....

they have now given me 6 cards at this point and 2 mobo's
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Originally Posted by eAT5 View Post

my 7970's wont Crossfire. so i RMA'ed them. they are sending me 2 R9 280X ... how they do this. my 7970's were 299$ each, the r9 280x's are 487$ each. good company to use their PC builder, no questions on the RMA, Ibuypower....

they have now given me 6 cards at this point and 2 mobo's

the 7970s are identical to the 280Xs for the most part, so they wouldn't be loosing any money from that really, and replaced RMA'ed hardware usually just goes back through the stocks, gets repaired, dismantled or eventually rebadged and sold of to another customer or left as a spare for another RMA.
   
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the 7970s are identical to the 280Xs for the most part, so they wouldn't be loosing any money from that really, and replaced RMA'ed hardware usually just goes back through the stocks, gets repaired, dismantled or eventually rebadged and sold of to another customer or left as a spare for another RMA.

sort of. its like 7970 GHZ edition with minor architecture diff. and not even all the 7970s are identical. UEFI card for example.


and they are at 1500$ on all their RMA's if you count the MOBO. im sure they get core charges, but not 100% and sure they got some sort of insurance... glad its not from card vendor, cause builder has a supply of cards...
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my 7970's wont Crossfire. so i RMA'ed them. they are sending me 2 R9 280X ... how they do this. my 7970's were 299$ each, the r9 280x's are 487$ each. good company to use their PC builder, no questions on the RMA, Ibuypower....

they have now given me 6 cards at this point and 2 mobo's

They are Both Tahiti Chips with 2048 shaders, and similar components.

Most Venders upgrade users if they are EoL Cards,

ie my brother's 5830 was upgraded to a 6850 when I RMA'd it after 5800 Series was unavailible.

HD7970s are Running $400 Retail, as are R9-280X's, Thanks to Coin Mining, otherwise they'd be in the $300 range.
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So I finally talked to the woman who issues refunds and denied it. She said besides the subtle differences in the cards (colors and ports) its a matter of hard to get stock. So now I will be waiting for a response.
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Back to one card now (MSI Lightning 7970).

I planned to take out the HD7950 During the summer to manage heat, but I did it today.

Came home, Was wondering why crossfire wouldnt link,

Remembered I opened the case and took the XFire bridge off to get the sound card out a few days ago (to Mod the Ribbon Cable into a Round one).

Noticed Immedately the XFire bridge was only connected to one card,

Connected it to the 7950,
Powered up,
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Booted a game, locked at a black screen,
Reset, got into windows
Boot game played for 2 hours, exited to menu, locked up at black screen,
Reboot, locked at windows several times,
Shut down,
Disable XFire Link Bridge, Boot fine and havent had a lockup since.

I was Fine with 14.1, but with 14.2 it's lockup central for some reason, I thought I had fixed it but I guess not.
With 14.1 I was able to Enable/Disable XFire Fine in CCC, with 14.2 Enabling or disabling locks me up on a black screen.

Guess I wait for the next Driver, and until I get a water cooling unit for the 7950 it will stay out till prolly September-ish.

On the note of water blocks, seems the LEDs on my H100 have called it quits as well sometime in the last few days.
Pump and Fans are still running.
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Back to one card now (MSI Lightning 7970).

I planned to take out the HD7950 During the summer to manage heat, but I did it today.

Came home, Was wondering why crossfire wouldnt link,

Remembered I opened the case and took the XFire bridge off to get the sound card out a few days ago (to Mod the Ribbon Cable into a Round one).

Noticed Immedately the XFire bridge was only connected to one card,

Connected it to the 7950,
Powered up,
windows locked at the logo,
Reset, got to windows.
Booted a game, locked at a black screen,
Reset, got into windows
Boot game played for 2 hours, exited to menu, locked up at black screen,
Reboot, locked at windows several times,
Shut down,
Disable XFire Link Bridge, Boot fine and havent had a lockup since.

I was Fine with 14.1, but with 14.2 it's lockup central for some reason, I thought I had fixed it but I guess not.
With 14.1 I was able to Enable/Disable XFire Fine in CCC, with 14.2 Enabling or disabling locks me up on a black screen.

Guess I wait for the next Driver, and until I get a water cooling unit for the 7950 it will stay out till prolly September-ish.

On the note of water blocks, seems the LEDs on my H100 have called it quits as well sometime in the last few days.
Pump and Fans are still running.

made sure it isn't a bad bridge?
   
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Also you can do crossfire without bridge. Bridge is only a modified DVI link anyway and as such runs into bandwidth issues if you are running resolutions larger than 2560x1600.
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Also you can do crossfire without bridge. Bridge is only a modified DVI link anyway and as such runs into bandwidth issues if you are running resolutions larger than 2560x1600.
......7950, not 290x
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......7950, not 290x

CF without bridge works fine also on older cards. I have used it, for example, for cross-firing as early as with 5770's. They do have CF fingers on them, you just don't need to put a bridge on them if you don't feel like it. As I was running eyefinity (which exceeds the bandwidth of CF bridges anyway) I could not detect any measurable difference in performance between CF with bridge and CF without bridge in my case (total resolution was 5400x1920). Both cards were in PCI-e 2.0 x8 slots but I have done it briefly also with x16 + x4 PCIe 2.0 slots.
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