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I'll post a screen shot so you can see later. Inexplicable to me.

I dont know about that specific game, but I have played older titles that I had to force vsync via Radeon Pro, as there was no on game option. Also windowed mode would force a sync if that is an in game option.
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Resurrecting an old post as I have fallen into this hole too. Only in my case there are two 7970s in crossfire, although xfire doesn't seem to be working properly, a Vishera running at 4.8GHz, and both cards are showing 100% utilization trying to play this old title. I say Xfire isn't working properly because the voltage on the second GPU card is not raised to 1.2V like the primary as reported by MSIA.
Tried adjusting the CAP in Catalyst, but didn't seem to make any difference. An example was to force xfire off completely.
Running the latest beta drivers too.

This is just too embarrassing to contemplate. mad.gif While the game plays fine, the idea these cards have to labor so hard makes no sense to me.

Any suggestions? I'm looking for tweaks to the setup, not turning down options in the game. FWIW, the in game conditions have all options at max, and Vsync turned OFF at 1080p res.

send them back, my 7970's were not crossfiring at all. i RMA'd them and they sent my Powercolor R9 280x Turbo Duo's, they kick my 7970's in the teeth. they work fine from getgo. they just run hot. but have better fans and a backplate. turn up fans to 80% and they kick ass....
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After 2 MONTHS, MSI got me a 7970 lightning boost edition. Very glad I went through this BS now. They fed me the BS they couldnt fix the fans on my 7970 lightning but they fixed that 280x I sent back in. I told the guy I'd rather a 7970 lightning as a proper replacement, and he called me back saying they found a lightning BE. He even said he was having them send it to him to make sure its properly functioning, just to be safe.

So tell me 7970 friends, does the BE have better binning?
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After 2 MONTHS, MSI got me a 7970 lightning boost edition. Very glad I went through this BS now. They fed me the BS they couldnt fix the fans on my 7970 lightning but they fixed that 280x I sent back in. I told the guy I'd rather a 7970 lightning as a proper replacement, and he called me back saying they found a lightning BE. He even said he was having them send it to him to make sure its properly functioning, just to be safe.

So tell me 7970 friends, does the BE have better binning?

Generally Speaking the Lightning Came in 3 Flavors
(pretty sure there was actually 4 or 5 if you count minor model number revisions)

All 3 Retain the same I/O Layout,
the Same Cooler,
the Same Backplate,
the Overclocking Reactor
the Sensor/Voltage Reading Points.

MSI R7970 Lighting:
1070 MHz GPU, 5600 MHz MEM
The Original,

MSI R7970 Power Edition
925 MHz GPU, 5500 MHz MEM
Not Labeled as "Lightning", but has Lightning Printed on PCB and Backplate,

MSI R7970 Lightning BE (Boost Edition)
The Latest Version, uses the "AMD Boost Feature" of the GPU
1070 MHz GPU, 6000 MHz Memory
GPU Automatically Boosts to 1150 MHz if Power and Thermals Allow during gaming.




So the BE is the latest version, and utilizes the updated "BOOST" feature of the newer 7970 Cards to allow it to automatically overclock 80 MHz, also has faster out of the box memory clocks.
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After 2 MONTHS, MSI got me a 7970 lightning boost edition. Very glad I went through this BS now. They fed me the BS they couldnt fix the fans on my 7970 lightning but they fixed that 280x I sent back in. I told the guy I'd rather a 7970 lightning as a proper replacement, and he called me back saying they found a lightning BE. He even said he was having them send it to him to make sure its properly functioning, just to be safe.

So tell me 7970 friends, does the BE have better binning?

Generally Speaking the Lightning Came in 3 Flavors
(pretty sure there was actually 4 or 5 if you count minor model number revisions)

All 3 Retain the same I/O Layout,
the Same Cooler,
the Same Backplate,
the Overclocking Reactor
the Sensor/Voltage Reading Points.

MSI R7970 Lighting:
1070 MHz GPU, 5600 MHz MEM
The Original,

MSI R7970 Power Edition
925 MHz GPU, 5500 MHz MEM
Not Labeled as "Lightning", but has Lightning Printed on PCB and Backplate,

MSI R7970 Lightning BE (Boost Edition)
The Latest Version, uses the "AMD Boost Feature" of the GPU
1070 MHz GPU, 6000 MHz Memory
GPU Automatically Boosts to 1150 MHz if Power and Thermals Allow during gaming.




So the BE is the latest version, and utilizes the updated "BOOST" feature of the newer 7970 Cards to allow it to automatically overclock 80 MHz, also has faster out of the box memory clocks.
I will have owned all 3 once my BE gets here.

First I had the PE, it was bad and when anything caused it to clock up the card crashed.

Second was the lightning. Used it almost 2 years and the fans recently died.

Now, a Boost edition as a replacement. It took forever and a bad 280x but they gave me what I deserved.

The fact the GPU can boost 1150 during gaming, means I can just clock it there no swear, assuming I can get the 1225 I had on my old lightning too. I'm guessing if thermals allows it means it has a set heat threshold. Hopefully it doesn't artifact at 75c regardless of clocks like my old lightning. Even on stock that thing would do it, but never any temp lower.
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I dont know about that specific game, but I have played older titles that I had to force vsync via Radeon Pro, as there was no on game option. Also windowed mode would force a sync if that is an in game option.

I found a post late last night suggesting the same thing. It is odd AMD provides both CatalystCC and Raptr, and neither can affect these basic settings.
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send them back, my 7970's were not crossfiring at all. i RMA'd them and they sent my Powercolor R9 280x Turbo Duo's, they kick my 7970's in the teeth. they work fine from getgo. they just run hot. but have better fans and a backplate. turn up fans to 80% and they kick ass....

The hardware is fine. I've played many crossfire enabled games on these cards.

As I understand it, older titles like this used Vsync to control the game's video processing. For whatever reason, Vsync on the original Dead Space title used 30 FPS, which causes other problems to system responsiveness. To disable Vsync causes unconstrained GPU usage which is unnecessary.

Rivatuner Stastics Server seems to provide a framerate cap and this does work to control usage of the resources. There was one other recommended setting that may force me to install RadeonPro, if for no other reason than to see if it clears up a "tearing" problem I'm seeing.
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Yea a lot of older games with poor single card optimization will most likely preform worse on crossfire. I think I had a friend who had to disable 1 card to make GTA4 run properly because it ran worse with crossfire than single card. So if the game is old enough that 1 card is plenty, I say disable one.
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Yea a lot of older games with poor single card optimization will most likely preform worse on crossfire. I think I had a friend who had to disable 1 card to make GTA4 run properly because it ran worse with crossfire than single card. So if the game is old enough that 1 card is plenty, I say disable one.

DCS is the same way.
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I tried to run RadeonPro tool. It's fairly powerful in what it can control, and there's actually a write-up in steamcommunity about how to do it., but the game crashes when trying to start, presumably because the API detection is causing a problem.

But in the end, the comments just above are spot on. It's pretty darn funny to see FPS counter register 600 or 800 frames per second.
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