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Looks to be a bit better then ceramique 2. Good choice thumb.gif

I used their carat 7 on the die for my delid Haswell. With gelid extreme, temps went from 80 c to 55 c (non delid to delid)
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I'm intrigued by this, what do you mean by a large chip? Transistor count?

How do the Nvidia 700s compare in this regard?

any large piece of silicon, the larger it is the worse the effect, generally its the expansion and shrinkage as it heats and cools, causes warpage, the 290/Xs have this concern and AMD worked around it by making it cap at 95C and regulate the fan speed so it does a very smooth transition instead of heating and cooling very fast.

coupled with that, if you do some extreme clocks and voltage, the combined effect can end up destroying the components inside the chip much quicker then they would normally age, you're also just as likely to warp the PCB and kill it that way, so ultimately if you want to OC you should try your best to keep it as cool as possible over the entire board.

and yea, the nvidia's would have the same concern, maby even a little more as they have such larger chips, running high temps alone can be bad for the life of the card, I had a friend who lost one of his old 580's recently even though they aren't very old (he replaced the two 580s with a 780). they ran at 90+C a lot of times.
   
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AS5 is dated tbh and it takes ~200 hours to cure. Most newer stuff today cures faster and performs better.


I picked up some Ceramique 2 and mx-3 from jab-tech during their 50% off sale.

^This, AS5 is old, the only reason I've used it recently is because I still have a tube of it, lol

For GPUs, I'd recommened Prolimatech PK1

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AS5 is non-conductive but it is slightly capacitive.

Yup
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Arctic silver 5 is conductive right? I have used it on GPU but I have always taken care to have nothing on the board and only on the face of the processor. I know its not the safest but I always made sure to clean up before operation.

I used it on my 7950 but I had to be VERY careful with it.

To be honest for my CPU I used what came with the noctua NH-U14S and it seems great. I just spread some nice and neat on the cooler and screwed it back on. As for my GPU, currently I'm using a 6850 but I just got word my 290 will ship in the next day. So happy days for me. I don't know if I've ever changed thermal on this GPU, because its not technically mine. I built the PC it came from as a birthday present for an old roommate and he left it behind. And thank god too because the only other GPU I have is an ancient geforce 7300LE and its falling apart.

So for my next thermal purchase since its almost gone on AS5, what should I pick up? The only reason I continued to buy AS5 is because the performance on heat transfer still seemed top notch on reviews.

This is what noctua includes with their coolers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608008
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any large piece of silicon, the larger it is the worse the effect,
Is it the same thing as the die size usually listed in mm^2?
Does that mean gpus like the 750ti would fare better in this regard?
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Is it the same thing as the die size usually listed in mm^2?
Does that mean gpus like the 750ti would fare better in this regard?

yes that is the size I'm referring to, and yea, smaller chips are likely to suffer less from warping in that regard, however they are usually built around a lesser quality PCB and components so are still susceptible to damage or at least very poor stability if pushed to the limits at high temps.

I had a HD5770 that quite enjoyed running at 99C under load, however I don't believe the memory ICs enjoyed that and it had some occasional issues before I replaced it with the 7970 (which now resides inside my sister's rig as I now use a 290X).
   
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What about this?

Some people have stated that it can damage the gpu. I applied it to mine anyway about 9 months ago and saw my temps decrease and the card is still alive.
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What about this?

Some people have stated that it can damage the gpu. I applied it to mine anyway about 9 months ago and saw my temps decrease and the card is still alive.
Its non conductive so I don't see why it would harm the GPU. They must have done something wrong.
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I have an asus 7970 when I first got it I ran it for about a month and then took the cooler off and replaced the stock thermal paste with Arctic Silver, the temps are either exactly the same or maybe dropped like 1 degree. So using the stock thermal paste seems just fine. I have been running it for about a year now with the Arctic Silver, I was wondering if there is better thermal paste for it. I do have some Liquid Ultra that I run on my CPU I was wondering if anyone uses that on their GPU. Thanks in advance for replies.


Just FYI if someone does not know what Liquid Ultra is.....

http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-ultra/

Don't use Ultra or liquid metal TIM's on your GPU's, depending on the heatsinks material you could destroy it. It's also harder to apply on GPU's.

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I have an asus 7970 when I first got it I ran it for about a month and then took the cooler off and replaced the stock thermal paste with Arctic Silver, the temps are either exactly the same or maybe dropped like 1 degree. So using the stock thermal paste seems just fine. I have been running it for about a year now with the Arctic Silver, I was wondering if there is better thermal paste for it. I do have some Liquid Ultra that I run on my CPU I was wondering if anyone uses that on their GPU. Thanks in advance for replies.


Just FYI if someone does not know what Liquid Ultra is.....

http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-ultra/

dont use Electrically Conductive TIMs,

There's exposed circuits on the GPUs.. all it takes is 1 drip after you apply the heatsink to move onto the exposed circuit, then poof, no more GPU
yea, you know this is OCN right? do you know how many people use it on gpus? it is fine as long as proper precautions are taken. i dont use it but yea, it is fine to use
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What about this?

Some people have stated that it can damage the gpu. I applied it to mine anyway about 9 months ago and saw my temps decrease and the card is still alive.
Its non conductive so I don't see why it would harm the GPU. They must have done something wrong.

people seem to think it scratches stuff, which has never been proven but some idiot went on a waaaaa parade a while ago

btw all i added a new gpu to my collection

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Or you can just edit the profile...... and not have to do anything like that.

Does anyone know hex details for hd 4200?
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yea, you know this is OCN right? do you know how many people use it on gpus? it is fine as long as proper precautions are taken. i dont use it but yea, it is fine to use
people seem to think it scratches stuff, which has never been proven but some idiot went on a waaaaa parade a while ago

btw all i added a new gpu to my collection

I hadn't even imagined such a situation, but yes, diamond is harder than metal. If proper procedure isn't followed, such things can happen. In a matter of speaking then, a product like AS5 is more idiot-proof, but 5 degrees C is not something to be left on the table performance-wise for OCN crowd.

Congrats on the new card.
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