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Well, first of all

I have never ever EVER had good success with waking up a computer, screen savers bla bla out side of Windows XP. Vista was junk, Windows 7 is junkier from my experience. Why is this? I have no idea, but that's what has always happened for me.

What I would do is make sure all your components are always getting the right amount of power. Don't let your monitor power itself down, just shut the monitor off yourself at night manually and then in the morning, turn it on and see if anything has changed.

Something is funky with the power features on your computer somewhere. Might be the card, might be something else. I would uninstall and delete any non ATI overclocking tools right now, in fact, there is no use for them unless you're overclocking past what your stock voltage can handle. I've had more issues getting stable with AB or Trixx then just using CCC. The only thing CCC really needs is voltage control (unless it has this and I missed it)

You need to start from scratch, uninstall everything you have related to that GPU, get enough juice to all your components including your monitor and try from there. The goal is to eliminate everything that could and would affect your GPU.

I have done this already. Even just using CCC to overclock, I hard lock upon wake up. With everything bone stock, its fine. If I disable my screensaver, its fine to use MSI AB (haven't tried CCC or Trixxx, as I just learned this last night).

I know, KNOW without a doubt it has something to do with the GPU. As I never ONCE had a problem with any of my Nvidia cards, doing anything at all. I ran everything from 580 SLI to a single GT240, to even 8800GT's in SLI with the GT240 as PhysX. Never once had a problem with anything at all while those cards were in there. Everything just worked as it should.

Swap to this 7970....bam, hard lock ups when trying to wake up. sozo.gif And yes, I did thoroughly clean all my drivers and crap out of it before swapping. We went over this a few hundred posts ago. tongue.gif

So it seems I just have to live without a screensaver. I can live with that, so long as my monitors can still power off on their own. smile.gif
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I have done this already. Even just using CCC to overclock, I hard lock upon wake up. With everything bone stock, its fine. If I disable my screensaver, its fine to use MSI AB (haven't tried CCC or Trixxx, as I just learned this last night).
I know, KNOW without a doubt it has something to do with the GPU. As I never ONCE had a problem with any of my Nvidia cards, doing anything at all. I ran everything from 580 SLI to a single GT240, to even 8800GT's in SLI with the GT240 as PhysX. Never once had a problem with anything at all while those cards were in there. Everything just worked as it should.
Swap to this 7970....bam, hard lock ups when trying to wake up. sozo.gif And yes, I did thoroughly clean all my drivers and crap out of it before swapping. We went over this a few hundred posts ago. tongue.gif
So it seems I just have to live without a screensaver. I can live with that, so long as my monitors can still power off on their own. smile.gif

Like I said, I've never had good success with anything waking up involving windows regardless of the hardware. I believe my GTX 580 had this issue and the same on my 5870 before it.

I just manually shut off the monitor when I go to sleep, piece of cake.
     
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I have done this already. Even just using CCC to overclock, I hard lock upon wake up. With everything bone stock, its fine. If I disable my screensaver, its fine to use MSI AB (haven't tried CCC or Trixxx, as I just learned this last night).
I know, KNOW without a doubt it has something to do with the GPU. As I never ONCE had a problem with any of my Nvidia cards, doing anything at all. I ran everything from 580 SLI to a single GT240, to even 8800GT's in SLI with the GT240 as PhysX. Never once had a problem with anything at all while those cards were in there. Everything just worked as it should.
Swap to this 7970....bam, hard lock ups when trying to wake up. sozo.gif And yes, I did thoroughly clean all my drivers and crap out of it before swapping. We went over this a few hundred posts ago. tongue.gif
So it seems I just have to live without a screensaver. I can live with that, so long as my monitors can still power off on their own. smile.gif

Like I said, I've never had good success with anything waking up involving windows regardless of the hardware. I believe my GTX 580 had this issue and the same on my 5870 before it.

I just manually shut off the monitor when I go to sleep, piece of cake.

Yeah and see I have NEVER had a single problem using the Windows power features before. So we're exactly backwards. I enjoy my machine saving power for me automatically on its own. smile.gif
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is there any way to remove coil whine squealing from my hd 7970 ... im using stock clock no overclock at all caus ei dont really need it for play rift and swtor ...
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Well, this is weird: On my 7970 I have a very smooth performance and gameplay with settings at High in BF3. OC with MSAB to 1150/6000 at 1,2v. No probs at all, but as soon as I enable Ultra, which is the main reason why I bought this 7970, I have a crash after 10-15 mins. Temps never exceed 80c with my custom fan profile, but it just hard reboots my system. Whats the difference between Ultra and High for this card to render and then crash?
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Yeah and see I have NEVER had a single problem using the Windows power features before. So we're exactly backwards. I enjoy my machine saving power for me automatically on its own. smile.gif

Its AMD's driver issue. It happens, I am sure it will be fixed.

Might I also suggest (just a suggestion) you disabling the 2nd monitor for now and testing out the screen saver? I have a feeling it might be the combo of all 3.

AMD Driver + Screen Saver + Two Monitors. I anticipate its not setting itself to the proper clock rate due to being "idle."
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Well, this is weird: On my 7970 I have a very smooth performance and gameplay with settings at High in BF3. OC with MSAB to 1150/6000 at 1,2v. No probs at all, but as soon as I enable Ultra, which is the main reason why I bought this 7970, I have a crash after 10-15 mins. Temps never exceed 80c with my custom fan profile, but it just hard reboots my system. Whats the difference between Ultra and High for this card to render and then crash?

A lot of extra code is ran. Stuff like ambient occlusion on full and such. It could also be that your memory is unstable, all these extra light and shadow maps get stored in memory as well. So the VRAM gets a more thorough work out, not to mention the higher definition textures gobbling up more RAM. Don't forget we have ECC GDDR5. It may not show up as an error/crash with an overclock until it just gets to the point where it can't repair the bad memory data and then take down the whole system etc. I honestly don't see much point of overclocking memory, its not even close to being the bottleneck on modern GPUs.
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I suspected that memory might be an issue indeed, so I also ran the OC with only the core at 1125 and mem at 1375 stock. Powerthingy on +20% and voltage at stock too. Bam... crash at ultra. This happens with both Trixx and AB, with CCC I have no issues, but can not overvolt there, so I want AB for that oc above 1125. 3DM11 ran fine, other games ran fine, only BF3 crashes at ultra. Am I convicted to the CCC limits of voltage and therefore no higher core than 1125? rolleyes.gif
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Yeah and see I have NEVER had a single problem using the Windows power features before. So we're exactly backwards. I enjoy my machine saving power for me automatically on its own. smile.gif

Its AMD's driver issue. It happens, I am sure it will be fixed.

Might I also suggest (just a suggestion) you disabling the 2nd monitor for now and testing out the screen saver? I have a feeling it might be the combo of all 3.

AMD Driver + Screen Saver + Two Monitors. I anticipate its not setting itself to the proper clock rate due to being "idle."
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Originally Posted by Janaap View Post

Well, this is weird: On my 7970 I have a very smooth performance and gameplay with settings at High in BF3. OC with MSAB to 1150/6000 at 1,2v. No probs at all, but as soon as I enable Ultra, which is the main reason why I bought this 7970, I have a crash after 10-15 mins. Temps never exceed 80c with my custom fan profile, but it just hard reboots my system. Whats the difference between Ultra and High for this card to render and then crash?

A lot of extra code is ran. Stuff like ambient occlusion on full and such. It could also be that your memory is unstable, all these extra light and shadow maps get stored in memory as well. So the VRAM gets a more thorough work out, not to mention the higher definition textures gobbling up more RAM. Don't forget we have ECC GDDR5. It may not show up as an error/crash with an overclock until it just gets to the point where it can't repair the bad memory data and then take down the whole system etc. I honestly don't see much point of overclocking memory, its not even close to being the bottleneck on modern GPUs.

I have a feeling it COULD easily be a combination of all 3 as well. I can't be bothered to disable my second screen for a day honestly. I do a LOT of stuff on my machine, and its honestly a HUGE hassle having to move everything back around when I screw with the screens being on and off.

I've figured out that disabling my screensaver fixes the issue. That's fine enough by me, because at least I can still have my monitors power down. smile.gif That's my overall goal, I could care less about the screensaver, that's just there to look pretty until my screens shut off.
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If you do that much stuff, there won't be much time when you can sit and watch the screensaver being pretty anyway wink.gifbiggrin.gif

I've got power sleepy problems with mine too now I think about it; it keeps reverting to S1 sleep instead of S3 no matter what I set it to do, and it fails to wake from it.

I had to google deep and far to find a combo of "dumppo" and "nircmd" (yeah...) to force S3 sleep and set it to standby using a macro / batch file combo on my G510 keyboard. 'Sleep' is set to a G button that has to do a few different things to force it to sleep in a sleepy state that I am confident it will wake up from rolleyes.gif
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Is there still people having problems with BF3? I have been playing it lately and really haven't seen anything really to complain about. Can someone post what they get FPS wise so I can compare with my results. Also let me know what settings you are playing on as well. Thanks.
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