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Cheers, I'll do that first thing tomorrow. What exactly is the power setting I am moving, will it affect VRM temps, and is it in Afterburner or CCC? I read the first 20 pages or so of this thread and couldn't find it so I figured I was better just asking.

Also, is there any way to confirm the VRM temps without having some kind of manual reader? Or will I just have to trust that mine are 20C cooler than reported? I won't overvolt anyway, but it'd still be good because after an hour or so of BF3 last night they were at 99C


If you are on stock air cooler just stick to Afterburner and don't touch or enable CCC Overdrive to avoid possible conflicts. As to Power Setting, is allowing the card to draw more power when it needs to before throttling down to stay within power set limit. The DCII is definitely drawing more than the reference by design. Say the TDP is 250W with PS +20% (50W), you are allowing the card to draw 300W at drivers level. After hitting 300W limit, it will throttle down.

 

VRMs by design to operate at max temp of 120°C before shutting down. But you don't want to go there, it will dissipate the heat through PCB and affecting other components. I would take it apart and fix it. As long as the VRMs having proper contact with heat-sink, it should never go beyond 90°C in normal gaming with hottest summer ambient. Use HWiNFO64.exe to monitor the VRMs just to make sure. Do not assume it's 20°C cooler.
 

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I think the biggest frustration with these new AMD cards is just getting drivers properly installed. How does AMD expect everyone to know how to uninstall there drivers like we have too. If their process was like Nvidia's, we'd all be happy. I think that's the real issue. AMD's driver install is just a mess all together. We should not have to go through all this trouble shooting and hassle. I mean come on, 6900 posts of nothing but driver issues is insane. I will not be changing drivers for a long time if everything is working 100% now.


I think the biggest issue with the drivers are not digitally signed by Microsoft. It takes too long for the certification to keep up with the fixes. Hence why we need to turn of UAC to disable driver signature enforcement with non WHQL drivers. By doing so, the installation bypass the security check and in some ways affecting the registry and other Windows configurations. I think this explains why it works for some users with first install and doesn't for others. I'd like to know the exact reasons too.

 

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The card is simply ****.
Or its AMD being terrible at drivers, as usual. I returned mine because it keep freezing my PC when it has been idle for a couple hours.

I don't hope I will have to return it... It's only after I installed the drivers that it keeps blue screening on me.
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Can you test with another card in your system if it will crash after idle and waking up from sleep? Are you really sure it's the card fault?

I know it's the card that's at fault. It says atikdmag.sys or something...


I am not going to argue with that. But from my limited experience often than not always related to OC instability (CPU, RAM, Motherboard & card) and hardware issue (RAM, motherboard/PCIe and PSU).

 

 

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Right now I get an immediate crash of the CCC when I try opening it. If I delete these, run ATIMan, then run Driver Sweeper, and install the new drivers, will that make it show up again? Or will running ATIMan and/or Driver Sweeper be enough? Also, since I'm new to this, do I have to reboot between each step? I'd be deleting all drivers that have to do with the Radeon HD 4870 and installing the latest (Or most stable? Which would that be?) drivers for the 7970. Thanks!

 

Delete those folders then run ATIMAN should be sufficient. I have nothing against Driver Sweeper. But it will delete everything related to ATI/AMD/Nvidia. This includes everything nVidia installed by Windows and chipset drivers. If you have previously used it without issues then by all means use it again.

 

If you need to perform clean drivers install or overwrite to keep the missing files after RC11, more details in here.

 

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Anyone want my 7970s?
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anybody jump ship to gtx680?
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anybody jump ship to gtx680?

I got 1 on the way from newegg will test if faster then a 7970 like they are showing by alot i will sell my 3 7970s
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I got 1 on the way from newegg will test if faster then a 7970 like they are showing by alot i will sell my 3 7970s

By a lot? I seen maybe a max of 10FPS difference in most benches.
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didnt you know that 10fps is the game changer? rolleyes.gif
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didnt you know that 10fps is the game changer? rolleyes.gif

Well in some instances it is, but not when comparing to a card that is already capable of playing most games maxed @ 50-60FPS avg.

I mean, I wouldn't mind having one but it's not like they are going to be leaps and bounds better than the 79xx series. Just more great marketing hype by a company who have the fans and money to make it work.

I am interested in seeing real time reviews from non biased sources and users of how much difference it really makes between the two cards.
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I am interested in seeing real time reviews from non biased sources and users of how much difference it really makes between the two cards.

^this, and perhaps even more importantly, I am interested in how well their drivers are functioning in comparison to the 7970's. I can probably say with some confidence that a small performance increase and a stable driver will more than likely entice me to count my losses and jump ship from AMD.

Unfortunately that loss will include taking a hit on two 7970s, two EK waterblocks, two Ek backplates, two EK bridge links, and two single slot I/O brackets. frown.gif

gg, AMD.
Edited by svthomas - 3/22/12 at 7:57am
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All these reviews you are going to see so far are a stock vs stock, which means 925/1375 vs 1006-1056/1500. Let me ask how many of us are running 925/1375? NONE or maybe 1. How bout before thinking that card is so great, lets see what we can compare at 7970 at its potential vs 680 at it's potential. I'm running lower clocks then a lot of you on memory just because I don't like pushing the memory too high as it can damage the chip and then you are stuck doing a RMA. I run on the norm, 1150/1500 just because 1 card is on air still. Once both on water, 1200/1600 will be my clocks.

It's real easy for the GTX680 to be faster than the 7970 because Nvidia clocked it at 1006/1500 and with power boost. Nvidias card runs a little warmer. AMD could have released their card with the same clocks and it would have been neck and neck I bet. I want to see a comparison of both at say 1200/1600 and see what those numbers bring, or bring out the big boys here that are up in 1300+/1800+ and put one of them head to head with a 680 owner that has reached it's highest clocks possible. I still think that the 7970 will be my card of choice even with these dame drivers.
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^this, and perhaps even more importantly, I am interested in how well their drivers are functioning in comparison to the 7970's. I can probably say with some confidence that a small performance increase and a stable driver will more than likely entice me to count my losses and jump ship from AMD.
Unfortunately that loss will include taking a hit on two 7970s, two EK waterblocks, two Ek backplates, two EK bridge links, and two single slot I/O brackets. frown.gif
gg, AMD.


I don't think the 680 cards would be worth that loss unless you could keep it under 50$. I know the drivers suck but things always get better with time. After last night and doing a more stringent cleaning, I didn't have any issues with the new drivers so I am looking forward to the next driver package to just test and see if this works again, if so then I will be happy.

Will the 7970 black plates fit on the 7950 cards? wink.gif

After feeling how heavy these blocks are I'm thinking I should get some.
Edited by wireeater - 3/22/12 at 8:11am
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