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Darn! After posting above, took a look at my Koolance blocks are actually passive and I got 4 of them. Don't think I will put the blocks on. I am sure by the time got time to complete it, the 8970 will near release.

Also got confirmation from AMD regarding ZeroCore Power State will not function if you have HDMI and DP poplutated because it carries audio signal from device. The only port that works is DVI. They are working on a possible fix at drivers level. Not sure when.

 


Can I say this? I've never been a fan of koolance, except for their awesome ddc heatsinks.


Regarding the zerocore... I've got two seperate systems using all three ports, hdmi/dvi/dp at the same time with no lock up issues. However, I use optical for audio!?

 


 
To enter ZeroCore Power State and entering sleep/hibernate are two different issues. Most I have seen users are having crash after the system entered sleep state not that the card in ZeroCore Power State.

Most users identify it by "crash after long idle". By that maybe they don't know the PC is actually in Sleep/Hibernate state or ZeroCore Power State.

We don't know for sure in which stage they are having crash; Monitor Off > ZeroCore > PC Sleep > Hibernate > Resume.

 


I don't use sleep or hibernation or anything....except turning my monitors off. I get the problem if my card is overclocked when the monitors turn off. Hence why I use profiles in MSI AB.
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You said monitors, that means more than one and must use DVI, HDMI or DP. So the card will never go into ZeroCore Power State. As of now, only using DVI port the ZeroCore will function as it should.

 

Easy test, if you are on stock air cooler, after your monitors are OFF, the fan should stop spinning. If it doesn't stop, the card never in ZeroCore State. Then try with one monitor hooked to DVI port. After few seconds monitor off, the fan will stop. That's ZeroCore state.

 

As for TSM with multi monitors, his cards never go into ZeroCore state either. It simply enters sleep state.


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I'm so confused..... -_-
$115 or less block, NOT at FrozenCPU. Sidewinder preferred, but jab-tech is fine I suppose, I forgot about them.
The problem with a $115 block though, is I'll have to knock down to the HK CPU block instead of the Raystorm. frown.gif I'll have to compensate cost differences somewhere, because I can't break over $300 with this.

I'm sure you have your reasons for not shopping at FrozenCPU, so I'm going to skip that. Why not PPCs? cheers.gif

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You said monitors, that means more than one and must use DVI, HDMI or DP. So the card will never go into ZeroCore Power State. As of now, only using DVI port the ZeroCore will function as it should.

 

Easy test, if you are on stock air cooler, after your monitors are OFF, the fan should stop spinning. If it doenst stop, the card never in ZeroCore State. Then try with one monitor hooked to DVI port. After few seconds monitor off, the fan will stop. That's ZeroCore state.


First thing I do is disable hibernate. Sleep... sleep doesn't shutdown the pc, fans etc. I know my rig is in zerocore because it acts just like hibernate but it snaps back into a wake state in seconds. Hibernate takes a while for the system to wake the drives, read memory state before its back up.

You saw that vid I made right? Fans off, psu off, acts like its dead, just the flashing light. Hit the mouse/keyboard, bam in 2 seconds its back on in a flash.
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You said monitors, that means more than one and must use DVI, HDMI or DP. So the card will never go into ZeroCore Power State. As of now, only using DVI port the ZeroCore will function as it should.

Easy test, if you are on stock air cooler, after your monitors are OFF, the fan should stop spinning. If it doesn't stop, the card never in ZeroCore State. Then try with one monitor hooked to DVI port. After few seconds monitor off, the fan will stop. That's ZeroCore state.

As for TSM with multi monitors, his cards never go into ZeroCore state either. It simply enters sleep state.

I'm using DVI and DP to DVI. And no, it probably doesn't enter ZeroCore. But that doesn't mean I don't have a problem with it locking up after my monitors shut off....and that's EXACTLY when it happens to. However it only seems to do it if I've screwed with clock speed.
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You said monitors, that means more than one and must use DVI, HDMI or DP. So the card will never go into ZeroCore Power State. As of now, only using DVI port the ZeroCore will function as it should.

 

Easy test, if you are on stock air cooler, after your monitors are OFF, the fan should stop spinning. If it doenst stop, the card never in ZeroCore State. Then try with one monitor hooked to DVI port. After few seconds monitor off, the fan will stop. That's ZeroCore state.


First thing I do is disable hibernate. Sleep... sleep doesn't shutdown the pc, fans etc. I know my rig is in zerocore because it acts just like hibernate but it snaps back into a wake state in seconds. Hibernate takes a while for the system to wake the drives, read memory state before its back up.

You saw that vid I made right? Fans off, psu off, acts like its dead, just the flashing light. Hit the mouse/keyboard, bam in 2 seconds its back on in a flash.


Yes I saw that video hence why I asked about the RAM and settings you are using. Yes, Sleep turn off the fans (at least with my system). ZeroCore is not controlling the PC at all. The cards enter ZeroCore State to save power consumption and it doesn't trigger the PC into standby state unless we tell the PC what to do at the set period of time in Windows Power Options.

 

That video shows the PC fans were off. If you are with water cooling, the only way to know if the cards in ZeroCore State is using power meter because you don't have fans to tell you.
 

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You said monitors, that means more than one and must use DVI, HDMI or DP. So the card will never go into ZeroCore Power State. As of now, only using DVI port the ZeroCore will function as it should.

Easy test, if you are on stock air cooler, after your monitors are OFF, the fan should stop spinning. If it doesn't stop, the card never in ZeroCore State. Then try with one monitor hooked to DVI port. After few seconds monitor off, the fan will stop. That's ZeroCore state.

As for TSM with multi monitors, his cards never go into ZeroCore state either. It simply enters sleep state.

I'm using DVI and DP to DVI. And no, it probably doesn't enter ZeroCore. But that doesn't mean I don't have a problem with it locking up after my monitors shut off....and that's EXACTLY when it happens to. However it only seems to do it if I've screwed with clock speed.


 

That's something conflicting there. Maybe when monitors are OFF the card is not able to enter ZeroCore because the DP is active + overclock + Afterburner in the picture.

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I like PPC's. Just got some stuff from them for CMST. Shipped all the way to my country. I was considering getting some stuff from FrozenCPU as well, I do hope you can share your 'experience' with them pioneerisloud.
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Yes I saw that video hence why I asked about the RAM and settings you are using. Yes, Sleep turn off the fans (at least with my system). ZeroCore is not controlling the PC at all. The cards enter ZeroCore State to save power consumption and it doesn't trigger the PC into standby state unless we tell the PC what to do at the set period of time in Windows Power Options.

 

That video shows the PC fans were off. If you are with water cooling, the only way to know if the cards in ZeroCore State is using power meter because you don't have fans to tell you.
 


 

That's something conflicting there. Maybe when monitors are OFF the card is not able to enter ZeroCore because the DP is active + overclock + Afterburner in the picture.


Ok. I plugged in my killawatt. It draws 5 watts in sleep and 200 watts or so on wake. I made a vid too and can post it if need be.
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Yes I believe you. Total system draws 5 watts is in Sleep/Standby State. There's no way the total power the cards draw during idle is 200 watts. That must include total system idle.

 

If ZeroCore is working from idle 200W with 3 cards maybe down to 150W because the cards are in ZeroCore State.

 

With 3 cards, only two are able to enter ZeroCore, not the primary one because of 3 monitors. You can measure the power consumption during idle from 3 cards down to one card.

 

 

 

 


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