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So I just did this all. I cleaned my SSDs, put them in raid 0 as I should have a month ago, reinstalled windows, just finished installing all the updates and SP1, and JUST now installed 12.3.
So now that I've done all of this, what's the best way to OC my card? I want to get 1125 - 1575 and still use eyefinity. What would you recommend I do? I just disabled AMD OverDrive until I can figure this all out.
Thanks in advanced biggrin.gif - Jessekin32
EDIT*: Also, What would be the best way, do you think, to set this all up? should I OC first, then setup eyefinity? Or should I do eyefinity setup first, then OCing?

This is what I would do:

First and foremost, I would do research/reading. Reading about overclocking 7970s; the types of overclocks others are getting; how ASIC quality correlates to the GPU type, its voltages, and how one then determines the max voltage (up 125mV up from the voltage for your GPU type); and, max safe temps for your GPU, VRMs, etc.. You may also need to learn how to safely flash your card's BIOS, you'll see why I say this below.

After researching, I would determine the ASIC Quality Percentage for my GPU, and note the GPU type, its appropriate voltage, and the its max voltage.

Is your card Reference? If so, I would say, and this is just my opinion, the best way would be to flash one of your card's BIOSes to the unlocked ASUS BIOS. This way, you'll have extended clock limits, and won't need to mess with software to enable unofficial overclocking, or xcl methods. This is what I am doing.

However, if you don't want to do that, or you're not on a reference PCB, there are other ways. But as I am using a flashed BIOS, I haven't used these methods on 12.3, and it sounds like it may require one to copy files over from a previous driver which have been removed from the new driver. So if you prefer this method, I am probably not the best resource, but I am sure there are others here that would be of much more help in that regard.

As for setup, I use MSI Afterburner for all the card's overclocking, so that's obviously what I would recommend. I would set your desktop up with eyefinity and have it the way you plan on using it, and make sure everything works at stock settings. Once you're confident that everything is okay at stock, begin overclocking. So to answer your question: yes, I would do the eyefinity setup first.

If you use MSI afterburner, I would highly recommend enabling the On Screen Display with your GPU temp, load percentage, clock speed, and memory usage. Additionally, I would recommend that you get HWINFO and have that running in the background so that you make sure your VRM temperatures are safe.

This is all just my 2cents.gif, so please take it with a grain of salt.
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What are you doing with occt? I wouldn't be messing around with that and furmark more than just simple testing. Those apps are bad for the health of your card, specially when you raise the TDP limits.

I test my card for stability in occt, just 10minutes, no more.
Remember the troubles I have with playing Batman and receiving driver errors...
I wanted an app/benchmark that would find my max core, instead of always trying different values when gaming and only finding out after 2 hours of play or something.

I will just set PT back to 20% in CCC and try with my new clocks in Batman. See if that will hold up without driver errors this time...
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TSM, so how did you go about installing 8.95.5 without the troubles you had before? You didn't seem to like it at first when I was liking it? I couldn't play MW3, textures were all messed up so I went back to Rc11. You must of done something different if your liking those now?

I didn't use atiman on a fresh install. I'm starting to think the app sucks, it just does a buncha jibberish but it doesn't even actually remove the leftover old drivers, you know physically from the sys32/syswow directories. I was scratching my head, before the fresh install why just my eyefinity configs were corrupted. On a hunch I decided to not use atiman at all, just like I had always not used it. I only started using it cuz all the mofos are boasting it is great. Well, it broke my OS, corrupted the install even where I couldn't run SP1. I could be attributing more to atiman but eh, nothing has changed this time around but atiman. I've tried a few different drivers though they didn't all work, however each time I was able to go back to 8.95.5 and not have eyefinity corrupted. Regular uninstall for me for life.

**Btw, lemme show you a trick for cleaning out your main radeon entry in registry. It's unbelievably simple. After you uninstall the driver by choosing uninstall via the setup.exe, you can choose to remove catalyst manager from control panel too, I usually do, anyways after reboot. Go to device manager and uninstall the standard vga controller. If you see anything else like amd radeon XXXX, it means you still have drivers in there, choose to uninstall them and check the delete option. Reboot and redo.

Once you uninstall the standard vga entry in device manager, it will wipe the registry entries for your radeon card or cards. Then after another two boots, to let the system inintialize the card as if it was new, ie. install standard vga driver, install your driver of choice.
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You got max 1200 on your 7950 WF3? What's your ambient? I have to deal with pretty scorching temp's here, typically 32C.

Oh no, this is not my max. I just figured this is good enough for now. BF3 is the most demanding game temperature wise and I have not seen it go over 60C. Most games I play it sits around 53C. I could probably easily his 1300/1800 if I wanted too, but no need atm as everything plays 60 fps smooth.

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@tsm106 that sucks because when ever I have an issue with the CCC I use ATiman's uninstaller and everything is golden again. I have used it several times on this installation of windows and it has never caused a problem for me.
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I didn't use atiman on a fresh install. I'm starting to think the app sucks, it just does a buncha jibberish but it doesn't even actually remove the leftover old drivers, you know physically from the sys32/syswow directories. I was scratching my head, before the fresh install why just my eyefinity configs were corrupted. On a hunch I decided to not use atiman at all, just like I had always not used it. I only started using it cuz all the mofos are boasting it is great. Well, it broke my OS, corrupted the install even where I couldn't run SP1. I could be attributing more to atiman but eh, nothing has changed this time around but atiman. I've tried a few different drivers though they didn't all work, however each time I was able to go back to 8.95.5 and not have eyefinity corrupted. Regular uninstall for me for life.
**Btw, lemme show you a trick for cleaning out your main radeon entry in registry. It's unbelievably simple. After you uninstall the driver by choosing uninstall via the setup.exe, you can choose to remove catalyst manager from control panel too, I usually do, anyways after reboot. Go to device manager and uninstall the standard vga controller. If you see anything else like amd radeon XXXX, it means you still have drivers in there, choose to uninstall them and check the delete option. Reboot and redo.
Once you uninstall the standard vga entry in device manager, it will wipe the registry entries for your radeon card or cards. Then after another two boots, to let the system inintialize the card as if it was new, ie. install standard vga driver, install your driver of choice.

Sounds good. I think I'm going to do a fresh install myself. Only takes 10min to install windows and with my 50mb download speed, updates are done in a few mins also with having 2 vertex 3's in raid.

If you got a sec, check out this thread and drop your comment
http://www.overclock.net/t/1236110/should-i-swap-out-my-2500k-goldie-for-a-2700k-for-free-thoughts-please
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I have an MSI and a Sapphire 7970 CFX setup and I am constantly getting atikmpag.sys BSODs. Could it be because I have 2 different brands of card? It happens with OC settings and stock. Temps are all good. I'm running with the latest set of AMD Drivers (12.3)

Does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking that it might be due to a voltage requirement difference but it still crashes when I add a little extra voltage to it. I also have ULPS off.

Thank you for all of your help.
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Oh no, this is not my max. I just figured this is good enough for now. BF3 is the most demanding game temperature wise and I have not seen it go over 60C. Most games I play it sits around 53C. I could probably easily his 1300/1800 if I wanted too, but no need atm as everything plays 60 fps smooth.
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@tsm106 that sucks because when ever I have an issue with the CCC I use ATiman's uninstaller and everything is golden again. I have used it several times on this installation of windows and it has never caused a problem for me.

Nice clocks.

As for atiman, I watch it do stuff and imo it does crap I don't need it too. I don't need it to wipe every instance of radeons from the registry, I just need it to clean THE ONE entry that controls all radeon cards. There's just one entry! You know what I mean? And then it doesn't actually remove the files from the directories.
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Sounds good. I think I'm going to do a fresh install myself. Only takes 10min to install windows and with my 50mb download speed, updates are done in a few mins also with having 2 vertex 3's in raid.

I'm on some cheap agility 3s atm waiting on a pair of 830s, oh yea.
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The Sammy 830s aren't going to blow those Agility3s out of the water; I've got 2 A3s in RAID0 and they are quick eek.gif

Also glad I'm not the only one with the 2nd card clocking up to max with the 12.3's. Best wait for 12.4 I guess rolleyes.gif
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use heaven 3.0 to test for stability. run the program and if your oc isnt stable, it will crash. just keep raising the volts .06mv each time until your able to run the program with out crashing. once you get stable, loop it for about an hour. if you dont crash, then test some games out. just keep an eye on your temps while doing testing.

I increased it just 1 level (+06) and testing it for 45 minutes without an issue so far temperatures are around 70-71
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*Btw, lemme show you a trick for cleaning out your main radeon entry in registry. It's unbelievably simple. After you uninstall the driver by choosing uninstall via the setup.exe, you can choose to remove catalyst manager from control panel too, I usually do, anyways after reboot. Go to device manager and uninstall the standard vga controller. If you see anything else like amd radeon XXXX, it means you still have drivers in there, choose to uninstall them and check the delete option. Reboot and redo.
Once you uninstall the standard vga entry in device manager, it will wipe the registry entries for your radeon card or cards. Then after another two boots, to let the system inintialize the card as if it was new, ie. install standard vga driver, install your driver of choice.


 

thumb.gif Good job, didn't know that trick.

 


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