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I was saying, that even how much voltage you set in MSI afterburner, the HD7970 and HD7950 both have OCP physically on the PCB of the card, which will limit the given voltage to the GPU to stock+125mV, as stated many many times in this thread.

As far as I understand it the Lightnings are voltage unlocked...
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As far as I understand it the Lightnings are voltage unlocked...

It still has OCP, they just turned it down and made it more lax.
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First, we all accuse AMD drivers are bad. Now Atiman is the culprit because we ......... If we can't find answer or solution, out of frustation we just need something and someone to blame thumb.gif



Lol, who said they didn't suck anymore?
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this i have manage so far after exchanging the card.

1240/1600 @ 1.18v

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First, we all accuse AMD drivers are bad. Now Atiman is the culprit because we ......... If we can't find answer or solution, out of frustation we just need something and someone to blame thumb.gif
Some of us have been saying atiman is bad for a while (driver sweeper too)--the issue with these pieces of software should be blatantly obvious after one use--it's a bazooka to a fly. My success with these drivers made a dramatic turn for the better once I started to follow this simple concept: Install and uninstall the software the way the developer intended, without the use of third party software.

Your mileage may vary, and this is just my 2cents.gif .
Edited by svthomas - 3/30/12 at 8:33am
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New CAP profiles 12.3 CAP1:

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx

 

EDIT:

Half of the fixes are in single-gpu mode haha.  rolleyes.gif

 

 

New profiles added to this release:
                                                  - FireFall:  Resolve corruption when enabling Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center on single GPU configurations
                                                  - Test Drive Unlimited 2:  Improves CrossFire performance
                                                  - Ridge Racer Unbounded – Fixes full screen corruption for single GPU configurations
                                                  - Stacking – Resolved image quality issues when enabling  Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center on single GPU configurations
                                                  - Dirt 3:  Fixes corruption found in particular scenes when CrossFire is enabled

 


 

It doesn't matter. Starting from Catalyst 12.1, we can configure the 3D profiles anyway we want for best Crossfire scaling as in using RadeonPro.

 

 

AMD CrossFireX Mode for 3D Applications.

 

Under the drop down list:

 
  1. Disabled. This option turns off CrossFireX multi-GPU acceleration.
  2. Default uses whatever the global system default option is, or whatever AMD has configured, if the game already has a profile in the CAP package.
  3. AFR Friendly, which is for games which generally work well with Alternate Frame Rendering (AFR).
  4. Optimize 1x1. This is another AFR option, but with optimizations for 1x1 surfaces. The idea is, if AFR Friendly has problems, Optimize 1x1 is another option to try.
  5. Use AMD Pre-Defined Profile allows us to select the CrossFireX configuration of another game and apply it to the one for which we are making a profile.

 

(For more details and example: HARDOCP - Introduction - AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview Profiles and ... )


This doesn't replace CAPs which primarily fix bugs, which none of those options fix driver or application profile's actual bugs.  Nothing (within reason) usually beats the CAPs.  Experimenting with AFR or Optimize 1x1, is all fine and dandy, but if the driver support isn't there, it can be extremely buggy forcing any of those options.

 

Food for thought.

 

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First, we all accuse AMD drivers are bad. Now Atiman is the culprit because we ......... If we can't find answer or solution, out of frustation we just need something and someone to blame thumb.gif
Some of us have been saying atiman is bad for a while (driver sweeper too)--the issue with these pieces of software should be blatantly obvious after one use--it's a bazooka to a fly. My success with these drivers made a dramatic turn for the better once I started to follow this simple concept: Install and uninstall the software the way the developer intended, without the use of third party software.

Your mileage may vary, and this is just my 2cents.gif .
 

 

Keep in mind, both tools were considered absolutely mandatory or necessary because of how crappy the Driver installation and uninstallation solutions performed from ATi/AMD.  Blaming DriverSweeper and AtiMan is like blaming Cops for not preventing all murders, there is only so much it can do.  The issues have always been the driver and the developers "laziness."  This is coming from A developer, not just Joe Blow giving off steam.

 

AMDs drivers do suck in terms of handling errors and uninstalling cleanly.

 

I recommend all of you view AceEventLog in your EventViewer and view how many Hardware based crashes its handled.  The exceptions it doesn't know what to do with causes your AMD drivers to crash or your computer to BSOD / Hang.

 

This is feeling very similar to the 5870 launch :(  Although this is not AS bad.


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First, we all accuse AMD drivers are bad. Now Atiman is the culprit because we ......... If we can't find answer or solution, out of frustation we just need something and someone to blame thumb.gif
Some of us have been saying atiman is bad for a while (driver sweeper too)--the issue with these pieces of software should be blatantly obvious after one use--it's a bazooka to a fly. My success with these drivers made a dramatic turn for the better once I started to follow this simple concept: Install and uninstall the software the way the developer intended, without the use of third party software.

Your mileage may vary, and this is just my 2cents.gif .

 



Well, I have to admit I am a complete n00b when it comes to this.

 

But why on earth would someone utilize third party applications to clean up the traces of drivers if the regular uninstall and install are working fine? I thought we should only use it if as the last attempt other than suggesting RE-FORMAT? No?

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First, we all accuse AMD drivers are bad. Now Atiman is the culprit because we ......... If we can't find answer or solution, out of frustation we just need something and someone to blame thumb.gif
Some of us have been saying atiman is bad for a while (driver sweeper too)--the issue with these pieces of software should be blatantly obvious after one use--it's a bazooka to a fly. My success with these drivers made a dramatic turn for the better once I started to follow this simple concept: Install and uninstall the software the way the developer intended, without the use of third party software.

Your mileage may vary, and this is just my 2cents.gif .

 


Well, I have to admit I am a complete n00b when it comes to this.

 

But why on earth would someone utilize third party applications to clean up the traces of drivers if the regular uninstall and install are working fine? I thought we should only use it if as the last attempt other than suggesting RE-FORMAT? No?


People in the Red army (ATi/AMD users) tend to split down the middle, those that admit the drivers are bad/quirky, those that blame everyone and everything, including the user with the problem, and never the drivers.

 

This is one, just one, thing in a list of things to try when having issues:  Clean install, or as close to a re-format without having to re-format as possible.  Many people had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, because of tards blaming the user him/herself, that he knows how to install and uninstall the drivers.

 

All you have to do is uninstall the drivers, and start looking through your Windows folder for ATi drivers.  They are always still there.

 

The other thing is disabling ULPS for example, <- although it works, it is completely unacceptable solution.... but everyone seems okay with it.


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The other thing is disabling ULPS for example, <- although it works, it is completely unacceptable solution.... but everyone seems okay with it.

You do not understand why it must be disabled??

Why is it unacceptable, when you are using unofficial overclock methods. Lemme repeat that, unofficial overclock method. ULPS is not compatible with UNOFFICIAL overclock method.

Thus if its unacceptable, don't use UOM. Anyways, ULPS just drops the cards from low power state to ultra low power state, ie. 300/150 to almost 0. This brings up an perplexing counter to that though and it's that using OFFICIAL method, means the memory speed on your main card will stay clocked at 3D speed or defaults 3D speed. Which is worse...? Imo, I'd rather not run my memory at 3D clocks 24/7.
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The other thing is disabling ULPS for example, <- although it works, it is completely unacceptable solution.... but everyone seems okay with it.

 


You do not understand why it must be disabled??

Why is it unacceptable, when you are using unofficial overclock methods. Lemme repeat that, unofficial overclock method. ULPS is not compatible with UNOFFICIAL overclock method.

Thus if its unacceptable, don't use UOM. Anyways, ULPS just drops the cards from low power state to ultra low power state, ie. 300/150 to almost 0. This brings up an perplexing counter to that though and it's that using OFFICIAL method, means the memory speed on your main card will stay clocked at 3D speed or defaults 3D speed. Which is worse...? Imo, I'd rather not run my memory at 3D clocks 24/7.

 

ULPS needs to be disabled just to be stable physically installed, not even when overclocking.  Here you go again, talking about something that is only partially related.  ULPS should not need to be disabled just because you have CrossfireX, its specifically designed for CFX users, to enter the other GPUs to zero power state.  I am talking about when your not OVERCLOCKING.

 

BSOD 7E - No overclocking, nothing going on idle desktop BSOD, without it disabled.  The other issue it fixes is when starting up a video game with Crossfire enabled at times causing the game to CTD or ATIKMPAG to recover.

 

^- Not Acceptable.

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