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As far as I understand it the Lightnings are voltage unlocked...

From what I understand the second bios is fully unlocked.
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ULPS needs to be disabled just to be stable physically installed, not even when overclocking.  Here you go again, talking about something that is only partially related.  ULPS should not need to be disabled just because you have CrossfireX, its specifically designed for CFX users, to enter the other GPUs to zero power state.  I am talking about when your not OVERCLOCKING.

 

BSOD 7E - No overclocking, nothing going on idle desktop BSOD, without it disabled.  The other issue it fixes is when starting up a video game with Crossfire enabled at times causing the game to CTD or ATIKMPAG to recover.

 

^- Not Acceptable.


We've been running with ULPS untouched since Caymen allowed use to NOT HAVE to use AFTERBURNER, w/o an issue whatsoever. I'd been using ULPS since 2010 on my old quads w/o 1 issue, ever. Godamn I miss the days of RBE and RacerX with my 7970s. Btw, my qiads are now split into two separate rigs, still with ULPS on with RBE/RacerX, without issues. Whatever problems you have, it reads like you are blaming ULPS, w/o looking at the things you have attached to it.
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wait, so the MSI Lightnings have fully unlocked, so if you water cool you can prolly go up to 1.35v or even 1.4v fine? Instead, the reference are locked to 1.3 at the most.
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ULPS needs to be disabled just to be stable physically installed, not even when overclocking.  Here you go again, talking about something that is only partially related.  ULPS should not need to be disabled just because you have CrossfireX, its specifically designed for CFX users, to enter the other GPUs to zero power state.  I am talking about when your not OVERCLOCKING.

BSOD 7E - No overclocking, nothing going on idle desktop BSOD, without it disabled.  The other issue it fixes is when starting up a video game with Crossfire enabled at times causing the game to CTD or ATIKMPAG to recover.

^- Not Acceptable.

Yeah I agree,it seems AMD are going out of their way to hinder the consumer overclocking their cards. What is stopping them from having memory volts,core volts and unlimited overclocking in CCC, nothing.

If all the overclocking was integrated by AMD into CCC, we could have great overclocking AND great powersaving all in one. But I guess we are talking about a company who cannot seem to release a solid driver for a card, so asking for the above is probably just fantasy.
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Not sure if this was said before for 2 night in a row my card does not wake up from sleep? Basically i turn off the monitor which when it does it loses connection with the GPU. The PC is own and in the morning i turn on the display and nothing.
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ULPS needs to be disabled just to be stable physically installed, not even when overclocking.  Here you go again, talking about something that is only partially related.  ULPS should not need to be disabled just because you have CrossfireX, its specifically designed for CFX users, to enter the other GPUs to zero power state.  I am talking about when your not OVERCLOCKING.

 

BSOD 7E - No overclocking, nothing going on idle desktop BSOD, without it disabled.  The other issue it fixes is when starting up a video game with Crossfire enabled at times causing the game to CTD or ATIKMPAG to recover.

 

^- Not Acceptable.


We've been running with ULPS untouched since Caymen allowed use to NOT HAVE to use AFTERBURNER, w/o an issue whatsoever. I'd been using ULPS since 2010 on my old quads w/o 1 issue, ever. Godamn I miss the days of RBE and RacerX with my 7970s. Btw, my qiads are now split into two separate rigs, still with ULPS on with RBE/RacerX, without issues. Whatever problems you have, it reads like you are blaming ULPS, w/o looking at the things you have attached to it.


So you are in that group that blames users with a problem that its their fault, as I pointed out that a lot of AMD users do this.  I am glad/happy things work for you.  ULPS doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for other users aswell.  Has nothing to do with overclocking, this is only one of the myriad of issues I have faced.  Others have had similar and different issues, but I am sure its their fault too.

 

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Not sure if this was said before for 2 night in a row my card does not wake up from sleep? Basically i turn off the monitor which when it does it loses connection with the GPU. The PC is own and in the morning i turn on the display and nothing.

 

Happens to me after long idle periods, but I am on 12.4 Beta and didn't have this before with 12.2 WHQL (at least I don't think I did.)


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Yeah I agree,it seems AMD are going out of their way to hinder the consumer overclocking their cards. What is stopping them from having memory volts,core volts and unlimited overclocking in CCC, nothing.
If all the overclocking was integrated by AMD into CCC, we could have great overclocking AND great powersaving all in one. But I guess we are talking about a company who cannot seem to release a solid driver for a card, so asking for the above is probably just fantasy.

That's not his argument, he's saying using ULPS which is a defacto standard in any AMD driver install causes instability.
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So you are in that group that blames users with a problem that its their fault, as I pointed out that a lot of AMD users do this.  I am glad/happy things work for you.  ULPS doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for other users aswell.  Has nothing to do with overclocking, this is only one of the myriad of issues I have faced.  Others have had similar and different issues, but I am sure its their fault too.


You're using afterburner with xcl right? I coulda sworn I warned you about mixing UOM and OM methods. Btw, if you read Unwinders comments, enabling the UOM option in the config file disables xcl.

Which would require one to diable what amd process...?
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So you are in that group that blames users with a problem that its their fault, as I pointed out that a lot of AMD users do this.  I am glad/happy things work for you.  ULPS doesn't work for me, and it doesn't work for other users aswell.  Has nothing to do with overclocking, this is only one of the myriad of issues I have faced.  Others have had similar and different issues, but I am sure its their fault too.


You're using afterburner with xcl right?


Afterburner is not on my system at the moment, I just fresh installed after breaking my system benching the 3dmark11.  After installing drivers, first thing I had to do was disable ULPS had a BSOD within 5 minutes idle.  Finally got into Windows disabled ULPS and it was stable again at least idling.

 

Have the issue that Zealot has regarding waking up.

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Afterburner is not on my system at the moment, I just fresh installed after breaking my system benching the 3dmark11.  After installing drivers, first thing I had to do was disable ULPS had a BSOD within 5 minutes idle.  Finally got into Windows disabled ULPS and it was stable again at least idling.

 

Have the issue that Zealot has regarding waking up.


That issue is a known issue that Ken's been researching, but there's no fix. It's a driver issue for sure that's supposedly in the works for a fix. Btw, what driver are you using?
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