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Fresh Windows install?
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So.... To cut a long story short... What is the beste way for people on RC11 to upgrade to 12.3 ? Step by step so we have the least bit of troubles ?
Thx in advance!


 

I installed 12.3 over the top of RC11 (didn't un-install rc11) and all good other than sometimes after leaving computer for 30mins or so and I move mouse to turn on the screen, it would get a bit flaky. (driver would restart, firefox window I left open would be very slow or unresponsive)

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I installed 12.3 over the top of RC11 (didn't un-install rc11) and all good other than sometimes after leaving computer for 30mins or so and I move mouse to turn on the screen, it would get a bit flaky.

Are you able to launch BF3 and dirt3 in fullscreen dx11?
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Hey all. couple questions

1) if i ever need to recover bad flash, then do i boot comp with switch in postion 2, then just switch it while
computer is on to postion 1 and flash? is that safe?

2)putting two of my 3 cards under water, do I want to use my best asic ones? or worst? (worst ones will allow higher volts?)

thanks

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EDIT: I see that lower asic cards better for water, what about the flash question though?
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Are you able to launch BF3 and dirt3 in fullscreen dx11?


Play BF3 all the time, no issues.

Dirt3 I don't have, but I do have Dirt2 but would need to download it via steam again.

 

 

 

 

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Play BF3 all the time, no issues.



Not to ask a lot of questions, I just am curious because I have reproduced this across several installs. You're able to do this using eyefinity, right? If so, dang, these drivers are more inconsistent than I thought, lol.
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no way !
If that is the only way to install ATI drivers correctly .... one big LOL to that.
Will be my last ATI card in a long while if that would be true....
Let's just say my next card will be an NVIDIA lol
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Fresh Windows install?

no way !
If that is the only way to install ATI drivers correctly .... one big LOL to that.
Will be my last ATI card in a long while if that would be true....
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OK you guys with Eyefinity crashes in BF3/Crysis 2 and DX11 in general check this out.
Since I got my new samsung 830s, I've been throwing on new os for each driver. Anyways to the point, those dx11 eyefinity crashes are due to a msvcrt.dll which is a c runtime file. I figured this file gets updated when you run win update, and it gets changed quite a bit AND it has really serious security rights on it to further complicate things. I got an older version thinking I would swap dll's and see. I managed to swap the file thru playing with rights trickery, and swapped files.
Long story short it fubard the install. At this point I could either do the command line deal and revert the file or windows repair. I opted for windows repair and it blasted out the sys32 folder and replaced the runtimes. Thus in my long winded adventure, having windows run repair fixed this msvcrt bug and voila, Crysis 2 runs in dx11 in eyefinity.
Previously I've had issues running all the drivers past 12.2 to 12.4, all of them exhibited bsod 116 msvcrt at some point or other. I'm currently running 12.3 whql and crosses fingers it continues to work. So far its pretty stable, I'm vnc'd into the box with Crysis 2 running as I type this.

...been telling you guys that the drivers are mucking up the visual C++ libraries for a while--this _exact_ file. When I said this, because RC11 messes it up too (this is what messes up the upgrade from RC11 to 12.x), I got the old 'proof' from you, actually.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-thread/7540#post_16820377

 

AMD Drivers are always PEBKAC, until the person that claims that has issues. Only then there is an underlying problem with the drivers haha.

 

In all seriousness, don't worry about msvcrt.dll failing to install because the newer or equal timestamp is already on your system.  The fact that drivers are crashing in the game just proves that there is an issue with the drivers, or catalyst control center, or the communication in between.  If you install 12.3 WHQL, it has no issue, the Beta 12.4 should be treated as a beta for all things, including the installer it comes with.  Cash money bet that the runtime dll error is fixed or properly handled when 12.4 gets released.  Unfortunately its really hard to tell if there is anything more to it.

 

If you are looking for a work around to troubleshooting MSVCRT.DLL errors and crashing, your best bet is to completely uninstall the Catalyst Control Panel/Manager.  That may alleviate the problem (just leaving the D3D driver installed for example.)  I do believe though CFX may end up disabled, but things have changed a lot since my 58xx days of troubleshooting, and I simply didn't bother with 69xx series.

 

Alternatively to that, if I am not mistaken, Catalyst is modulated.  It is possible to install only the Control Manager from... lets say RC11, and then install the latest D3D driver from newer drivers.  I have never tried but since each component is potentially installable individually.... I would expect that mix matching them would be feasible.  Unfortunately, thats taking the approach only that the Catalyst Control Manager is borked.  If its the Driver, then you would install the latest CCC, with an older D3D Driver.  You also open yourself up to quite a few issues of incompatibility.  Thats if you want to trouble shoot it, which I usually do, either enthusiastically or begrudgingly.

 

I personally feel though after a while, enough is a enough, from AMD.


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Excellent, Thank you very much. I did switch over to the #2 bios when I kept getting the annoying ULPS message when trying to overclock with Trixx. Will change flash today. Fortunately I can fall back on the #2 bios slot if anything goes wrong. BTW, is there a simple fix for changing the ULPS setting. I did it once and it seemed more difficult than it should have been. Seems to have reverted back to the ulps state upon updating to the 12.3 whql driver.thumb.gif
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