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AMD Drivers are always PEBKAC, until the person that claims that has issues. Only then there is an underlying problem with the drivershaha.

In all seriousness, don't worry about msvcrt.dll, it fails to install because the newer or equal timestamp is already on your system.  The fact that drivers are crashing in the game just proves that there is an issue with the drivers, or catalyst control center, or the communication in between.

If you install 12.3 WHQL, it has no issue, the Beta 12.4 should be treated as a beta for all things, including the installer it comes with.  Cash money bet that the runtime dll error is fixed or properly handled when 12.4 gets released.  Unfortunately its really hard to tell if there is anything more to it.

If you are looking for a work around to MSVCRT.DLL errors and crashing, your best bet is to completely uninstall the Catalyst Control Panel/Manager.  That may alleviate the problem (just leaving the D3D driver installed for example.)  I do believe though CFX may end up disabled, but things have changed a lot since my 58xx days of troubleshooting, and I simply didn't bother with 69xx series.

I have just disabled eyefinity and am gaming 1080p until a new driver comes out. So far the drivers seem far more stable with eyefinity disabled, at least in my case. I am down to around one driver crash/reboot a night while playing bf3... Which I can live with for a few weeks until AMD gets this all sorted out.

In the very least, though, it's quite entertaining to watch crossfire 7970s roflstomp maxed out BF3 at 1080p. This seems to have appeased me, for now at least. smile.gif
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I have just disabled eyefinity and am gaming 1080p until a new driver comes out. So far the drivers seem far more stable with eyefinity disabled, at least in my case. I am down to around one driver crash/reboot a night while playing bf3... Which I can live with for a few months until AMD gets this all sorted out while they break another 10 things.
In the very least, though, it's quite entertaining to watch crossfire 7970s roflstomp maxed out BF3 at 1080p. This seems to have appeased me, for now at least. smile.gif

Fixed.
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Fixed.

HAHA, and it's probably more accurate, too. hahah thumb.gif
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Not to ask a lot of questions, I just am curious because I have reproduced this across several installs. You're able to do this using eyefinity, right? If so, dang, these drivers are more inconsistent than I thought, lol.
Let's just say my next card will be an NVIDIA lol


 

NO NO NO...no eyefinity

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Flashed the special Asus BIOS to both my cards, doesn't seem give me any extra voltage control with MSI AB, maybe I have to use Asus Trix ?
Also noticed that since I flashed the cards, card two is stuck at full 3D clocks rolleyes.gif

I posted a modified ASUS OC Test Bios with working clockstates , the orginal has only 3D clockstates:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-thread/7680#post_16829129

How-to edit the HD7970 bios with a hexeditor:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-thread/4200#post_16495299

How-to edit the Sapphire HD7950 oc bios with a hexeditor:
c9ke2jwbtdi.png
GPU clock
RAM clock
GPU voltage

You have to reverse the value and change the hex to decimal.

Examples:

90 5F 01 -> 01 5F 90 = 90000 = 900 MHz GPU clock.
To change 2D GPU voltage from 0,85V to 0,8V (Lower is not supported) hex= 52 03 to 20 03
01 FF is your VID which is saved on the GPU, you can overwrite it in the bios.

You can't write your high oc-values in the bios, because the AMD drivers don't support it.
Values like 1000 MHz GPU clock will probably work, but not much higher values.
This is why you have to use oc tools like GPU Tweak.
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Just want to throw out to any new 7970 owners. Adaptive AA + MLAA yields *much* better IQ in BF3 then their standard MSAA + FXAA. In fact Adaptive AA alone does as well and if you prefer a sharper image is most definitely the way to go. As far as I can tell the performance hit thankfully is pretty low as well.
    
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Flashed the special Asus BIOS to both my cards, doesn't seem give me any extra voltage control with MSI AB, maybe I have to use Asus Trix ?
Also noticed that since I flashed the cards, card two is stuck at full 3D clocks rolleyes.gif

I posted a modified ASUS OC Test Bios with working clockstates , the orginal has only 3D clockstates:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-thread/7680#post_16829129

How-to edit the HD7970 bios with a hexeditor:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-thread/4200#post_16495299

How-to edit the Sapphire HD7950 oc bios with a hexeditor:
c9ke2jwbtdi.png
GPU clock
RAM clock
GPU voltage

You have to reverse the value and change the hex to decimal.

Examples:

90 5F 01 -> 01 5F 90 = 90000 = 900 MHz GPU clock.
To change 2D GPU voltage from 0,85V to 0,8V (Lower is not supported) hex= 52 03 to 20 03
01 FF is your VID which is saved on the GPU, you can overwrite it in the bios.

You can't write your high oc-values in the bios, because the AMD drivers don't support it.
Values like 1000 MHz GPU clock will probably work, but not much higher values.
This is why you have to use oc tools like GPU Tweak.

 

You son of a... beat me to it.  I must say well done.  I was about to release a XFX Black Edition BIOS with the stock clock of 1100 @ 1100v and 1600 MHz of Memory.

 

Have you identified max voltage, not stock voltage? I am still looking for a way to get higher than 1.3, I don't think the value is stored as 1.300 which is why I am having trouble.

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You son of a... beat me to it.  I must say well done.  I was about to release a XFX Black Edition BIOS with the stock clock of 1100 @ 1100v and 1600 MHz of Memory.

Have you identified max voltage, not stock voltage? I am still looking for a way to get higher than 1.3, I don't think the value is stored as 1.300 which is why I am having trouble.

I know that 1.281V will not work, if you write it in the bios.
I didn't checked other voltages higher than the VID.
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Bios 2 is locked and the fail safe, don't try to flash to it,
Bios 1 is unlocked and flashable.
You should really do some research before attempting to flash, very easy to end up with a brick or at best difficult to recover.

You will need a boot disk or boot usb.

Once you have ati flash and the bios stored onto your newly formatted usb or cd...

Select it as your primary boot option...it will load into dos.

Then type the following....


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Atiflash.exe -fs -p 0 (name of rom or bin) for your primary GPU

Atiflash.exe -fs -p 1 (name of rom or bin) for your secondary GPU


Ooh and welcome  thumb.gif

Excellent, Thank you very much!thumb.gif
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What will happen if install the latest C++ with security fix then install Catalyst? Because Windows will not install what's Catalyst trying to install if the system has the latest. That's why we often see error message at the end of Catalyst installation.
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...been telling you guys that the drivers are mucking up the visual C++ libraries for a while--this _exact_ file. When I said this, because RC11 messes it up too (this is what messes up the upgrade from RC11 to 12.x), I got the old 'proof' from you, actually.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-thread/7540#post_16820377

Since I was installing a new raid array I took that chance to throw some new os installs and see what would happen with the different driver installs on a new os. 12.4 didn't work, got bsod 116 in eyefinity dx11 games. Besides that I lost synching between the DP and DVI ports, one screen would flash and tear no matter what I did. 12.3 on a fresh os got bsod 1116 as well in eyefinity etc. Both on a fully patched/updated system. It was then that I tried messing with msvcrt. Anyways, windows repair fixed it for a while, but then add in AB overclocking and I started to get teh bsods again.

Svthomas, this shows that it's not just rc11 for me at least. Same errors, without rc11 ever being in the picture! It's a really annoying issue, wish AMD would fix this crap already.
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