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Stop talking gibberish. MSI Alex has already stated that there's no such thing as binning. MSI do not bin silicon, stating that it's pretty much impossible in the stream.
All this I guarantee it will clock super, lol get outta here.
Also, the reference card has already proven it is the real deal. Did ya forget what card broke all them records??? Yea, the reference card lol.

Yes 4 of them and just wait until the better non-reference cards come out. In a year no one will even care about reference cards. I don't blame you for being impatient and going reference. In 2 months I guarantee you will regret it especially what you had to pay.
 
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I sense you are having to justifie waiting, and getting a non reference card such as a lightning tongue.gif. Other then being quieter, I really doubt they overclock a hole lot better. I have circumaural HS1A's so noise means nothing to me. Once I get mine ill see what kind of overclock I can get. 1.2+ ghz here I come smile.gif

I'm actually thankful for having to wait for the 3930k C2 that's holding off my build. If not for that I would have been like you and bought a pair of reference cards and had regrets a month later when all the better cards came out.
 
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Stop talking gibberish. MSI Alex has already stated that there's no such thing as binning. MSI do not bin silicon, stating that it's pretty much impossible in the stream.
All this I guarantee it will clock super, lol get outta here.
Also, the reference card has already proven it is the real deal. Did ya forget what card broke all them records??? Yea, the reference card lol.

Yes 4 of them and just wait until the better non-reference cards come out. In a year no one will even care about reference cards. I don't blame you for being impatient and going reference. In 2 months I guarantee you will regret it especially what you had to pay.

Lol, 4 dual fan cards? Who in their right mind stacks 4 dual fan cards??

After this run of reference cards, just like with Cayman, AMD will phase out the reference design and replace it with a cheaper pcb, ala version 2. Everyday almost you get threads where can I buy a reference card? Haha, try selling a non-ref card, they stink as a resale lol.
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If a higher clocked cooler running gpu wasn't for gaming then why do you see mostly hardcore gamers trying to push there reference cards to the brink through volting/water cooling? I would say a MSI Lightning 7970 that runs completely stable at 1300mhz and runs very cool at these clocks on air is very desirable. Especially for hardcore gamers with deep pockets. I would also consider 15-20 FPS over reference and runs much cooler at these speeds much more then a "smidge." Price wise what would a water system to run 2 7970's cost including the jackets for the gpu's run? Even then is 1300+mhz guaranteed with stability with reference bins being watercooled? These new non-reference cards clearly received better bins with the oc numbers they are claiming on air. Comparing the pros and cons the MSI lightning if it does what has been claimed seems to be a better value both in price and resale value then a water cooled reference card. Goodluck getting decent resale out of that card(reference w:/jacket) 1-2 years from now.


This card is not a bad option for gaming, it is simply not worth the preimium for just gaming IMO


I think you are missing the point here, guys will be reaching for 2000 with the new lightnings ...... many will fail if not all

But you will see 1700 and 1800 core acheived by the top guys, especially guys with factory support.

I actually game with two 580 lightnings ATBH I like my reference 580's better for a gaming application.

The lightning fans stick past the cooler ever so slightly and they hit my sound card that is between them not to mention it blocks the front fan of the top card a bit, with reference eVGA's it sat in there nice not causing any trouble and all hot air was expelled from the case

So think twice if you have to put an add in card next to one .........

And I think you would have to be extremly fortunate to gain the frames you speak of considering you have your reference card overclocked as well, wait and see scaling on air won't be as great as you may think
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Stop talking gibberish. MSI Alex has already stated that there's no such thing as binning. MSI do not bin silicon, stating that it's pretty much impossible in the stream.
All this I guarantee it will clock super, lol get outta here.
Also, the reference card has already proven it is the real deal. Did ya forget what card broke all them records??? Yea, the reference card lol.

Yes 4 of them and just wait until the better non-reference cards come out. In a year no one will even care about reference cards. I don't blame you for being impatient and going reference. In 2 months I guarantee you will regret it especially what you had to pay.

In a year no one will care about reference cards? In a year everyone will be talking about the 8970 reference cards. You have to jump in sometime. If you don't you'll be stuck in that 'something better is coming out soon' loop and never upgrade anything.
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This card is not a bad option for gaming, it is simply not worth the preimium for just gaming IMO
I think you are missing the point here, guys will be reaching for 2000 with the new lightnings ...... many will fail if not all
But you will see 1700 and 1800 core acheived by the top guys, especially guys with factory support.
I actually game with two 580 lightnings ATBH I like my reference 580's better for a gaming application.
The lightning fans stick past the cooler ever so slightly and they hit my sound card that is between them not to mention it blocks the front fan of the top card a bit, with reference eVGA's it sat in there nice not causing any trouble and all hot air was expelled from the case
So think twice if you have to put an add in card next to one .........
And I think you would have to be extremly fortunate to gain the frames you speak of considering you have your reference card overclocked as well, wait and see scaling on air won't be as great as you may think

Thankfully the asus sabertooth x79 board has a nice gap in between the two 16x slots. No matter the size of the cards I'm confident they will have plenty of space between them allowing for better cooling.
 
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Yea my Ud4 has an extra space as well, but I have to use it for my sound card unfotunatly.

I used one of the HDMI plugs off the IO as a spacer ........... LOL
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Thankfully the asus sabertooth x79 board has a nice gap in between the two 16x slots. No matter the size of the cards I'm confident they will have plenty of space between them allowing for better cooling.

Well you better have one hell of a case when it comes to airflow. The top card is going to be getting hit with all the hot air from the bottom card. Also, you stating reference will be a no go in 6 months... rolleyes.gif. You haven't been through a few cycles of gpus then. All you are going to be hearing is " where can I buy one? " come 6-8 months. No one is questioning your reasoning for wanting to buy a lightning, just stop saying false statements about reference cards. You seem to be so sure reference cards cant get past 1.2, when almost all I have seen have been able to without problem. We get it ... you want to wait for lightning's..... We will buy now and enjoy our reference cards thumb.gif.


My MSI GD-65 also has a triple slot spacing between the PCI-E 2.0 lanes
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Well you better have one hell of a case when it comes to airflow. The top card is going to be getting hit with all the hot air from the bottom card. Also, you stating reference will be a no go in 6 months... rolleyes.gif. You haven't been through a few cycles of gpus then. All you are going to be hearing is " where can I buy one? " come 6-8 months. No one is questioning your reasoning for wanting to buy a lightning, just stop saying false statements about reference cards. You seem to be so sure reference cards cant get past 1.2, when almost all I have seen have been able to without problem. We get it ... you want to wait for lightning's..... We will buy now and enjoy our reference cards thumb.gif.
My MSI GD-65 also has a triple slot spacing between the PCI-E 2.0 lanes

Add in the massive space between the slots on the sabertooth board both 16x and this case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apcgot45Ql0 I think I'll be fine lol.
 
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Just declined the package from NewEgg from UPS with the BEDD 7970'S. Its cool I still got some goodies from them in another box. feelsgoodman.jpeg
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