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You should not have problem with OCing in linux, my cpu is Oc'ed and no issues. Though the kernel matters.
Could you try installing on a HDD instead of SSD.


I under stand that I can OC in Linux. I had no problems with my previous OC'd systems and linux on SSD's or mech drives.

 

How would I figure out what kernel I am trying install?

 



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You will often find that linux requires a different overclock than windows, at least I know many people who have found it to be slightly lower in linux than in windows. Don't know why, don't care.
[edit] Hard lock... Hmmm screen shot would be nice.


 

How should I go about taking a screen shot of a hard lock? I assume just start taking pictures with a camera?

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I suppose I didn't put that very clearly,

animal0307 isn't overclocking, but I was using overclocking as an example that Linux can be more picky about how the bios is set and/or Ram timings and whatnot. Heck, a better comparison would be the AM3 settup a had for a short time - it did not like the 'optimized for i5' Ram I stuck in it and that might be similar to what is happening here.

Of course there could still be something else going on, can you pull out that wireless adapter thing on the motherboard?
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How should I go about taking a screen shot of a hard lock? I assume just start taking pictures with a camera?

Yes. Also, try removing hardware like Fir3Chi3f states as it could be something like that. He's right in saying linux can be extremely picky.
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Ya... You aren't going to believe what was causing the problems....

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Maybe post a pix of the kernel panic? also have you tried putting acpi=off into the kernel parameter and see if that helps?
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The add on usb wifi card is the culprit. I booted with one stick of ram, the other stick of ram, the other slot.... Booted with no hard drives, even grabbed a different drive... For the giggles I pulled the wifi card. Booted first try. I thought it was funny but figured what the heck. I went a head and plugged it back in to see if I could duplicate the results , but to my surprise it booted no problem. But couldn't believe it so I rebooted again and it crashed. Pulled it and now I'm in a live environment, installing and posting from it at this moment.

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Do you know any details about that wifi card? It would be good to get that posted somewhere for other linux users.
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Oh yeah... Actually error is "Kernel Panic has occured, switching back to text mode" the whole system freezes and I have to hard reboot.

do you know about the alt+sysrq key ... raising elephants is so utterly boring http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#.E2.80.9CREISUB.E2.80.9D_.E2.80.93_safe_reboot

if you can get the kernel trace out of dmesg or setup the kconsole, paste it. we can probably shed some light on what's happening if you can get the trace and the message.

regarding overclocks .... i totally disagree with a lot of what has been said. How can a layer of software on top of a cpu make any difference with regards to the stability of the cpu. Sure, it might have different usage patterns to make instability more or less likely to show up; but if your clock is stable and the instructions always make it across properly, the code running on top of it has nothing to do with the fact that that piece is working right or not. If your clock is unstable, it's purely a hardware problem.. Software X won't like unstable hardware anymore than software Y, even if X is pure gold and Y is garbage code. You may get lucky for a bit, but it will eventually show up regardless. thumb.gif
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do you know about the alt+sysrq key ... raising elephants is so utterly boring http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#.E2.80.9CREISUB.E2.80.9D_.E2.80.93_safe_reboot
if you can get the kernel trace out of dmesg or setup the kconsole, paste it. we can probably shed some light on what's happening if you can get the trace and the message.
regarding overclocks .... i totally disagree with a lot of what has been said. How can a layer of software on top of a cpu make any difference with regards to the stability of the cpu. Sure, it might have different usage patterns to make instability more or less likely to show up; but if your clock is stable and the instructions always make it across properly, the code running on top of it has nothing to do with the fact that that piece is working right or not. If your clock is unstable, it's purely a hardware problem.. Software X won't like unstable hardware anymore than software Y, even if X is pure gold and Y is garbage code. You may get lucky for a bit, but it will eventually show up regardless. thumb.gif

Just because an OC passes everything in Windows doesn't mean it passes in Linux. You compile your kernel in -03 without MCE checked and ran tests? Linux can run more machine specific code, that could possibly stress instructions on the CPU that windows won't. So it's not the software determining the stability but rather how the software calls the hardware functions. You might have X calls out of 100 cause a rounding error (or similar) but they only get used sparingly in Windows vs the Linux kernel.

So no, software can't make something more stable or unstable but it sure as hell can stress the hardware differently to expose instabilities.
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do you know about the alt+sysrq key ... raising elephants is so utterly boring http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#.E2.80.9CREISUB.E2.80.9D_.E2.80.93_safe_reboot
if you can get the kernel trace out of dmesg or setup the kconsole, paste it. we can probably shed some light on what's happening if you can get the trace and the message.
regarding overclocks .... i totally disagree with a lot of what has been said. How can a layer of software on top of a cpu make any difference with regards to the stability of the cpu. Sure, it might have different usage patterns to make instability more or less likely to show up; but if your clock is stable and the instructions always make it across properly, the code running on top of it has nothing to do with the fact that that piece is working right or not. If your clock is unstable, it's purely a hardware problem.. Software X won't like unstable hardware anymore than software Y, even if X is pure gold and Y is garbage code. You may get lucky for a bit, but it will eventually show up regardless. thumb.gif


Interesting read. I'm gonna try to remember that. But does that work when attempting a fresh install?

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