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I plan to get a new high-end video card every year...
If you plan to have a video card for over two years, it may as well be the faster one.
Similar price, right?
Short-term inconvenience for a long-term satisfaction (at least I hope so).

Well that was put well, + rep.

If I can, I will. If I can't, I won't.

Thanks!

-Shaq
post #22 of 44
Nvidia has PhysX and, Surround 3D (for future use, i know AMD have it to. but ya..)

So ya, stick with GTX580, 10% less then AMD one will not notice any different unless you play Crysis on 1600p

Benchmark is one thing, but REAL LIFE usage is another. I wouldn't go thru the hassel on resending the item back and have to deal with restocking fee THEN had to wait another few days for AMD one
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Did you notice the price on that sucker is $700 well above where MSRP should even be, NO THANK YOU.

7970 at that price of $700..

and I quite "$549 retail
should be available around mid January"

I bid you good day sir.
sir.
good day.
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That is a good point.
I need whatever GPU I get to last for 3 years anyway (then I'm selling my PC and getting a car biggrin.gif and new PC).
I'm honestly not TOO phased if I don't get the 7970 UNLESS my GTX 580 can't maintain high settings on games in 2 years time.

-Shaq

You should not be disappointed.

Anyways does anyone know which 580 is used in these bench marks? If it is the standard 772 clock then of course the 7970s will outperform it greatly, but say, how would a classified 580 at the stock clock of 900 perform against the 7970s stock clock ? I am just curious, if they are comparing these 7970s to first gen reference 580s that is quite silly, seeing as how the 580s have evolved since release?
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Nvidia has PhysX and, Surround 3D (for future use, i know AMD have it to. but ya..)

So ya, stick with GTX580, 10% less then AMD one will not notice any different unless you play Crysis on 1600p

Benchmark is one thing, but REAL LIFE usage is another. I wouldn't go thru the hassel on resending the item back and have to deal with restocking fee THEN had to wait another few days for AMD one

10% is a very conservative number.
Not only that, but you seem to have taken overclocking out of the equation (it gets 20% without a voltage bump).
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10% is a very conservative number.
Not only that, but you seem to have taken overclocking out of the equation (it gets 20% without a voltage bump).

Yeah this is true , although so do many of the higher end 580s. I mean take Khalams 580s for instance, reach 1ghz with only a slight voltage bump, or my cards reach 965 on stock volts.
Again just wondering if they compared a dog of a 580 to these beastly 7970s. I mean, comparing

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130655 <-this stock clock 772

to this stock clock of 925 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131452

Just seems a bit tilted in the favor of the 7970s. Although when price is considered the 7970 is clearly the better buy performance wise.


This is why i would like to see the 7970s compared to an equal 580 like the EVGA classifieds or the GB super over clocked cards, or even these lightning extremes that rarely need a voltage bump to hit 900 core.
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Something I havent seen people mention is that with any new graphics card generation, the drivers arent fully optimized and not at the peak performance. Right now the 7970 might be only 10 percent faster than the 580 but over time with new driver releases the 7970 will be even faster. Also like someone else in this thread said. If you are going to spend that much money on a card why not just go all out and get the fastest, especially if its the same price. It will save you buyers remorse. I would return the 580 unless they charge me a restocking fee. Also the 7970 has 3 gig of ram, so if you decide to upgrade your monitor to a higher resolution or if you want a tripple monitor setup, your pc will be able to handle it better with the extra ram.
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i would keep what you have. i have one, and i can say it is the absolute best card i've ever owned. i can play bf3 completely maxed out along with batman: ac. also, these cards overclock very nicely. i am not saying the 7970 isn't more powerful, but since you already have the 580, and you could be charged a re-stock fee and delays, i would stay with the 580. you will be very happy with that card.
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Something I havent seen people mention is that with any new graphics card generation, the drivers arent fully optimized and not at the peak performance. Right now the 7970 might be only 10 percent faster than the 580 but over time with new driver releases the 7970 will be even faster. Also like someone else in this thread said. If you are going to spend that much money on a card why not just go all out and get the fastest, especially if its the same price. It will save you buyers remorse. I would return the 580 unless they charge me a restocking fee.

thats so true, the 7970 can only get better with driver updates.. as to cooling as previously mention the hd 7970 has a die of 28nm which is a move from 40nm therefore lower power consumption means it will run at lower temps smile.gif
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Something I havent seen people mention is that with any new graphics card generation, the drivers arent fully optimized and not at the peak performance. Right now the 7970 might be only 10 percent faster than the 580 but over time with new driver releases the 7970 will be even faster. Also like someone else in this thread said. If you are going to spend that much money on a card why not just go all out and get the fastest, especially if its the same price. It will save you buyers remorse. I would return the 580 unless they charge me a restocking fee. Also the 7970 has 3 gig of ram, so if you decide to upgrade your monitor to a higher resolution or if you want a tripple monitor setup, your pc will be able to handle it better with the extra ram.

I do not plan on getting multi monitors anytime soon and the card I currently have also has 3GB of VRAM.

-Shaq
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