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I have the Ultrasone DJ-1 Pro, which is basically a Pro 550 with a bit more bass. The sound stage is pretty good, although not as good as the AD700's. The bass is amazing though.

I would still recommend the AD700 for gaming. Closed headphones in general get uncomfortably tight because they clamp onto your head. If you are gaming for more than an hour or two, you will get sore and want to take them off.

I have the AD900's (almost identical the the AD700) and I could wear them all day. I love the Ultrasones, but I would never use them for gaming/movies/tv for that reason.
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I have the Ultrasone DJ-1 Pro, which is basically a Pro 550 with a bit more bass.

Aren't they the EXACT same?
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From what I understand the driver itself is identical, but the housing is different, which can change the sound dramatically. I haven't tried the 550's myself, but from what I have heard from other people the only difference is a stronger lower end.

I would love to get a chance to try them side by side.
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Originally Posted by Vheissu View Post

I have the Ultrasone DJ-1 Pro, which is basically a Pro 550 with a bit more bass. The sound stage is pretty good, although not as good as the AD700's. The bass is amazing though.
I would still recommend the AD700 for gaming. Closed headphones in general get uncomfortably tight because they clamp onto your head. If you are gaming for more than an hour or two, you will get sore and want to take them off.
I have the AD900's (almost identical the the AD700) and I could wear them all day. I love the Ultrasones, but I would never use them for gaming/movies/tv for that reason.

Aren't the A700's pretty much the exact design as the AD's? (minus the open back, obviously....)
ie, shouldn't they be just as comfortable?

The more I think of it, the more I think I'm leaning toward the A700, if only for the isolation factor....I would really like to be able to take these with me when I go to the library or want to use them at night in my room -- so I guess I worry mostly about sound leaking OUT....How bad is it with the AD700/900's?

Also, would the cost difference be worth choosing the 900 series over the 700s?

EDIT: One more....Would it be reasonably possible to mod the AD700/900's with a closed back....or is there more to it than that? (I'm pretty much a noob, in case you couldn't tell....) biggrin.gif
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Haha, yeah, I guess my "closed headphones are uncomfortable" generalization doesn't really apply to the A700. The pads aren't velour but that's a minor detail.

The AD series leak a LOT so you will get some dirty looks if you take them to the library. I've heard of people covering the wire cups with clingfilm to make it closed, but it isn't perfect and you will end up with a goofy looking headphone. Sounds like the A700 might be the best choice for you.

The AD900 is a great headphone. It's been a long time since I tried AD700's, but from what I remember the biggest difference is more substantial mids and lows. It has a magnesium frame instead of plastic. That said, it costs more than twice as much. Not really worth the extra cash.

Edit: Simca is bang on. Hope I was clear enough about which headphones I was talking about lol.
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The closed back version of the AD900 is the A900 o_O

The closed back version of the AD700 is the A700.

A900 is 200 dollars or so, closed, excellent isolation, good bass (more than A700), still good for gaming, though many would argue inferior to the AD700s because of these compromises.

If you're asking if you can keep the awesome sound stage from an open back headphone and make it closed and keep that same soundstage, the answer is no. Part of the reason it's sound stage is so wide is because of the airy open back-ness. It's not sealed off and doesn't have sound reverberating around against the back of the can like closed headphones do.

Part of what makes sound different is the enclosure of the headphone, so no it would be absolutely pointless to mod an open headphone into a closed headphone, especially when there's a version already available that does what you want (not to mention it would DEFINITELY be cheaper to buy what version you want rather than mod it.)
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The closed back version of the AD900 is the A900 o_O
The closed back version of the AD700 is the A700.
A900 is 200 dollars or so, closed, excellent isolation, good bass (more than A700), still good for gaming, though many would argue inferior to the AD700s because of these compromises.
If you're asking if you can keep the awesome sound stage from an open back headphone and make it closed and keep that same soundstage, the answer is no. Part of the reason it's sound stage is so wide is because of the airy open back-ness. It's not sealed off and doesn't have sound reverberating around against the back of the can like closed headphones do.
Part of what makes sound different is the enclosure of the headphone, so no it would be absolutely pointless to mod an open headphone into a closed headphone, especially when there's a version already available that does what you want (not to mention it would DEFINITELY be cheaper to buy what version you want rather than mod it.)

Ok, that's what I was guessing, but wasn't sure....thanks a ton for the clarification!
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Haha, yeah, I guess my "closed headphones are uncomfortable" generalization doesn't really apply to the A700. The pads aren't velour but that's a minor detail.
The AD series leak a LOT so you will get some dirty looks if you take them to the library. I've heard of people covering the wire cups with clingfilm to make it closed, but it isn't perfect and you will end up with a goofy looking headphone. Sounds like the A700 might be the best choice for you.
The AD900 is a great headphone. It's been a long time since I tried AD700's, but from what I remember the biggest difference is more substantial mids and lows. It has a magnesium frame instead of plastic. That said, it costs more than twice as much. Not really worth the extra cash.
Edit: Simca is bang on. Hope I was clear enough about which headphones I was talking about lol.

Thanks for clearing that up for me....+REP to you both! thumb.gif

I think I'm going to go with the A700's. Thanks for all the help everyone. smile.gif
    
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I own both and while I don't use either anymore (gave my a700's to my dad so he would get an understanding why I spent so much money on audio, ad700's I just don't use) the difference in comfort between them is vast. Why AT didn't put in a pivot for the vertical axis for the ad700 is beyond me, and even with the rubberband mod it still didn't fit right, meanwhile the a700's are almost unnoticeable in use. And while the a700's soundstage is smaller, it's still respectable and they had good positioning which is a more important factor to me anyway.

So imo you made the right choice between the two.
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Come now....You just said that cus you want a REP point too, didn't you?

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Thanks for the input though! thumb.gif
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