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This
and this.
From my experience very few people with the 4s even use siri past the first week. It's a gimmick. Also kind of funny that Steelbom ignored all the points Dragonii made besides the relatively useless gimmick....
Honestly it really doesn't matter if you can speak to your phone "naturally" or not...
It's not like any of these are terribly difficult to remember. In fact you'd likely use these same commands on your almighty 4s as they're pretty much the most logical thing to say....Android voice commands

Because your experience is all inclusive and indicative of an infinite sample value?

Bottom line, Siri is a viable option for those in the Apple eco system. While those in the Android spec can use "X" program to fill in the chasm.
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Check for the time in Paris.....
See that little mic icon?
700
tap it and speak the words "Paris time" and you get....
The time in Paris (and with speaking fewer words)
700
You Apple fans put way too much hype in this Siri nonsense.
Did I mention that my phone could do all of this way before Siri came out?
As for the OP about iPhone sales catching up.... have you ever heard of the "potato bug killer" scam in the 30's? Proof that with the proper marketing you can easily separate a fool and his money.

What's hilarious is so many don't even realize Android can do this. Everyone knows the iPhone can because of the marketing hype surrounding it.
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Windows Phone is all I need.

Can't believe how good it is after trying.
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Windows Phone is all I need.
Can't believe how good it is after trying.

Not sure if serious? headscratch.gif
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Wow... have you lot got nothing better to do than insult me? I think some of what you guys say is absolutely absurd but you don't see me calling you a fan boy or anything for that matter. Sheesh.
Give up on what? The poster proposed that being able to talk to your phone naturally, and it understanding context, is unimportant, which is ridiculous.
Read above. I'm no fan boy, I suspect there's a few haters here though.
No and no, and I ignored the points he made because it's entirely and totally irrelevant to the discussion about Siri.
... It seems insults are all you can resort to when someone else disagrees with your opinion.
>>>>>
It's absolutely absurd that you're all arguing that the ability to understand natural input and understand context in voice control software doesn't matter. It's a great improvement that makes it even easier to use the software and especially so for new users. An AI can't ever truly be useful while you have to memorize myriads of commands to use it.

While yes the ability to understand natural input is a great move forward for voice recognition software what most people are arguing is the vast majority of things siri can do android can do as well, sure you might not be as natural about it but the fact is the functionality is there. I just tried the voice commands now to try some out and every single one I gave was recognized without talking like a robot. The biggest thing that gets people is the fact that apple advertises this as some amazing break through tech when the fact of the matter is it has been around for a very long time, yes they improved it a bit but it doesn't change the fact that it really isn't a game changer the way apple has made it out to be, imo at least.
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I'm still rocking my LG Rumor 2. My contract has long since been up but I don't feel like paying an additional $50 a month just so I can have a smartphone. $75+ a month is a lot of coin for a phone.
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No and no, and I ignored the points he made because it's entirely and totally irrelevant to the discussion about Siri.

I'm not particularly trying to say that Siri is a "bad" thing, I will admit that it brings us one step closer to Star Trek, yet I feel that even that is unnecessary and possibly dangerous. At this point Siri seems to me more of a novelty than anything else.

My points were totally relevant as what I was trying to say is that a feature like Siri is no where near enough for me to sacrifice the features that I already have with Droid. I like having a true turn by turn GPS system in my phone. When I get in my truck to go somewhere I just snap it into its cozy little dock on the windshield, hit the little microphone icon and speak the address that I wish to go to. My phone then shows me the way with turn by turn voice instruction, satellite images and up to date traffic times. If the little road on the screen is red then you turn off that road because traffic is at a dead stop, if it's green, you are good to go. The GPS works better than my Tom Tom ever did.
See this.... it's not an exaggeration. And this video was for the Beta in 2009. It's even better now.

I also like being able to customize my screens with widgets that deliver up to date info at a glance. I could never live with just a bunch of screens of icons like the iPhone. I unlock my phone and I instantly see the weather for the week ahead, upcoming appointments on all of my work and personal calendars and the controls to things like Bluetooth, wireless, screen brightness etc. With the flick of a finger I have the latest from my Facebook friends, emails, G+, music player, and more. Whatever I want, not what Apple wants. I can remove, add, rearrange and customize those widgets at will. My phone delivers the info that I need, in the layout, style and fashion that I desire... not just screens of little icons.
I can also transfer files via wireless connection or bluetooth at will. Any file, no limitations. I can move music, pictures, apps etc from my phone to my tablet or PC without plugging in a single wire. I can download an album to my tablet and then transfer it to my phone via Bluetooth with out plugging anything in. Want an example? I bought the newest Blue October CD a few weeks back and I ripped it to mp3 using my laptop. I then moved those songs to my phone and my Droid tablet without plugging anything in. When I saw my mother last weekend and told her that I had gotten the CD she wanted to hear it, I transferred it to her Galaxy S II via bluetooth while driving home from a comedy show on the interstate, and I even had the music on my phone playing over her trucks radio while doing it.
I swapped out my stock battery (which would normally last one full day on a charge) for a higher capacity one that last me two to three days on a single charge. Love it!
And as I said, my phone has survived drops that would have killed an iPhone.

My point was that I am not willing to give up all that just for the ability to talk to my phone in laymen terms. Just not a good trade off.
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Wow... have you lot got nothing better to do than insult me? I think some of what you guys say is absolutely absurd but you don't see me calling you a fan boy or anything for that matter. Sheesh.
Give up on what? The poster proposed that being able to talk to your phone naturally, and it understanding context, is unimportant, which is ridiculous.
Read above. I'm no fan boy, I suspect there's a few haters here though.
No and no, and I ignored the points he made because it's entirely and totally irrelevant to the discussion about Siri.
... It seems insults are all you can resort to when someone else disagrees with your opinion.
>>>>>
It's absolutely absurd that you're all arguing that the ability to understand natural input and understand context in voice control software doesn't matter. It's a great improvement that makes it even easier to use the software and especially so for new users. An AI can't ever truly be useful while you have to memorize myriads of commands to use it.

Stop. Just stop now. This is not an AI. This is a simple program that has been around for many years and Apple thought would help the sales with the 4S.
     
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I'm not particularly trying to say that Siri is a "bad" thing, I will admit that it brings us one step closer to Star Trek, yet I feel that even that is unnecessary and possibly dangerous. At this point Siri seems to me more of a novelty than anything else.
My points were totally relevant as what I was trying to say is that a feature like Siri is no where near enough for me to sacrifice the features that I already have with Droid. I like having a true turn by turn GPS system in my phone. When I get in my truck to go somewhere I just snap it into its cozy little dock on the windshield, hit the little microphone icon and speak the address that I wish to go to. My phone then shows me the way with turn by turn voice instruction, satellite images and up to date traffic times. If the little road on the screen is red then you turn off that road because traffic is at a dead stop, if it's green, you are good to go. The GPS works better than my Tom Tom ever did.
See this.... it's not an exaggeration. And this video was for the Beta in 2009. It's even better now.I also like being able to customize my screens with widgets that deliver up to date info at a glance. I could never live with just a bunch of screens of icons like the iPhone. I unlock my phone and I instantly see the weather for the week ahead, upcoming appointments on all of my work and personal calendars and the controls to things like Bluetooth, wireless, screen brightness etc. With the flick of a finger I have the latest from my Facebook friends, emails, G+, music player, and more. Whatever I want, not what Apple wants. I can remove, add, rearrange and customize those widgets at will. My phone delivers the info that I need, in the layout, style and fashion that I desire... not just screens of little icons.
I can also transfer files via wireless connection or bluetooth at will. Any file, no limitations. I can move music, pictures, apps etc from my phone to my tablet or PC without plugging in a single wire. I can download an album to my tablet and then transfer it to my phone via Bluetooth with out plugging anything in. Want an example? I bought the newest Blue October CD a few weeks back and I ripped it to mp3 using my laptop. I then moved those songs to my phone and my Droid tablet without plugging anything in. When I saw my mother last weekend and told her that I had gotten the CD she wanted to hear it, I transferred it to her Galaxy S II via bluetooth while driving home from a comedy show on the interstate, and I even had the music on my phone playing over her trucks radio while doing it.
I swapped out my stock battery (which would normally last one full day on a charge) for a higher capacity one that last me two to three days on a single charge. Love it!
And as I said, my phone has survived drops that would have killed an iPhone.
My point was that I am not willing to give up all that just for the ability to talk to my phone in laymen terms. Just not a good trade off.

That's great and all, but I don't hear anyone trying to convince you to switch. thumb.gif

He's just pointing out that it's different than Android's offerings and more advanced.
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Stop. Just stop now. This is not an AI. This is a simple program that has been around for many years and Apple thought would help the sales with the 4S.

If it's such a "simple" program then where is the Android version that's vastly more complex and useful? Oh yeah, there isn't one.
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So Android sales had a huge decrease?

I thought the Kindle Fire was selling like hotcakes?
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