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Personally, I would not buy a Macbook with an AMD. In my head, when you pay a premium price for an apple product, you do not look at value for money aspect at all.

What do you look at when you purchase an Apple product?

Chances are most users wouldn't perceive any difference, so if Apple can gouge people further by including a less expensive AMD part that is close enough, they probably should.
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An AMD Macbook Air sounds good to me too. Seeing that AMD is getting great reviews with their Llano and even better the soon to be released Trinity's.

Hell no... I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Especially with 17W quad core Haswell coming out in 2013. It'll be perfect for ultra portables.
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AMD already makes better integrated graphics...

IVY Bridge iGPU walks all over Llano. I don't know where you got that idea.
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Since when have Apple computers used Ferrari class hardware?

For years... Where have you been? First OEM to offer the new Xeons, first one to offer Sandy Bridge in their laptops with the B3 chipset and not even needing a to do a recall, first to utilize Intel's Thunderbolt, and on and on... With IVY-Bridge mobile coming out in a couple months, they'll do it again. Apple's special relationship with Intel has let them get early access to technology before any other company and has been a huge driving force in getting Intel to get their TDP down on their mobile processors.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 1/9/12 at 11:59pm
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Always nice to see how fanatic Intel fans are about this kind of things.. thumb.gif
Really funny people out there. I just want to avoid Apple's because of price.
Edited by Pikivirta - 1/10/12 at 12:02am
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What do you look at when you purchase an Apple product?

Chances are most users wouldn't perceive any difference, so if Apple can gouge people further by including a less expensive AMD part that is close enough, they probably should.

You're smarter than that. People pay a premium for high performance. Their computer sales would plummet if they used the equally priced yet poorer performing counterpart. If AMD somehow came out with a superior mobile CPU though, they'd switch in a heartbeat.
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IVY Bridge iGPU walks all over Llano. I don't know where you got that idea.
Mmm, I'm not so sure about that, the AMD APUs have a pretty great iGPU. Do we even have benchmarks of Ivy's iGPU performance yet?
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You're smarter than that. People pay a premium for high performance. Their computer sales would plummet if they used the equally priced yet poorer performing counterpart. If AMD somehow came out with a superior mobile CPU though, they'd switch in a heartbeat.

 

You're thinking of PC enthusiasts, not Mac users. The latter would be fine with a Pentium III in their Mac as long as it "just worked" and ran Twitter and Flickr.
 

 

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It's funny how the thread has gone to comparing two unreleased pieces of hardware and bickering which is better. rolleyes.gif
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You're thinking of PC enthusiasts, not Mac users. The latter would be fine with a Pentium III in their Mac as long as it "just worked" and ran Twitter and Flickr.

There's no need for that... Actually Mac users tend to need more power than PC users(because the PC user-base is so huge of course). Especially in the movie/music industry. I'm a Mac user and I can't wait for Haswell. I'm waiting to buy the next IVY-Bridge 15" in April/May too just because I need the improved IPC as most of my programs are single threaded. 8 weak cores would be a step backwards for consumers. Their IPC hasn't improved since 2007.
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There's no need for that... Actually Mac users tend to need more power than PC users(because the PC user-base is so huge of course). Especially in the movie/music industry. I'm a Mac user and I can't wait for Haswell. I'm waiting to buy the next IVY-Bridge 15" in April/May too just because I need the improved IPC as most of my programs are single threaded. 8 weak cores would be a step backwards for consumers. Their IPC hasn't improved since 2007.


Movie production is largely PC-based. Pixar uses Windows exclusively IIRC and has for years (which is ironic since the late Steve Jobs was their CEO.) Even the so-called "creative professional" segment is moving away from OS X more and more every year.

 

Real professionals who really and truly need real power use Xeon workstations and render clusters, not 15" MacBook Pros running single-threaded apps. I'm sure kweechy will be able to chime in on this one too.

 

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Movie production is largely PC-based. Pixar uses Windows exclusively IIRC and has for years (which is ironic since the late Steve Jobs was their CEO.) Even the so-called "creative professional" segment is moving away from OS X more and more every year.

Real professionals who really and truly need real power use Xeon workstations and render clusters, not 15" MacBook Pros running single-threaded apps. I'm sure kweechy will be able to chime in on this one too.

I never said they render on laptops... I said I use them. Way to twist words. My applications are mostly UNIX based so there's another reason why I use stable OS with a nice GUI. Look at what the engineers at Google, Facebook and many of the Silicon Valley companies use. They don't use OSX because it looks "pretty". The scientific research at my University is still mostly done on Xserve machines. Go into the Physics and Astronomy departments and see what the majority of Graduate and Postdoc students are using to do their research.

Apple still holds the majority in the movie and recording industry and they do use Xeons.
BTW, Pixar renders on Linux clusters currently while testing out rendering in the cloud. Guess what the employees work on though. tongue.gif Google Marionette to see for yourself. Or just see behind the scenes footage.
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