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Get HAF XL!
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Lol, any numbers or stats to back up that claim lol?
post #12 of 31
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Lol, any numbers or stats to back up that claim lol?

yea...... anyway ill take some pics of some of the items that come with the HAF X to aid in cooling GFX cards as they really did go all out for that part. ^_^
 
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post #13 of 31
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I'm getting 85's high on load gaming (SWTOR) on both GTX570s with my Raven 01 side panels off.
With side panels on and playing something more intensive like BF3, I'll spike to 89 on top card and maybe low 80's or 85 on bottom card.
Not a fan of barely hitting 90 and it's winter so I don't know what summer will bring and I want my cards to have a long life and not damage or artifact because of the heat.
You think if I bought the HAF X my temps would drop atleast 10C on the GPU's or etc..?
It has a top 140mm and I think room for 1 more for a total of 2, the raven only has a 120mm on top, and the HAFX has the front intake and a Side 200mm fan for the GPU's which I think would help alot.
I really don't want to spend 199$ and then see 4degree difference because in my subjective opinion that isn't worth the 200$.
Advice?


One big question to you:- your sig rig points to an EVGA GTX570 having non traditional cooling (ie with a central fan and the card exhausts heat bi-directionally via the front and the rear = pic 1) while your pictures above seem to show EVGA GTX570s having traditional cooling (ie front centrifugal fan with uni-directional exhaust via the rear = pic 2).  Which is yours?

 

pic 1

gtx570 a.jpg

pic 2

gtx570 b.jpg

If you have the non traditional cooling ones, this is another big reason why your GTX570s are having high temp inside a RV01 because the hot exhaust from the card's front just runs against the uprising fresh air, resulting in ineffective heat dissipation.  If so, then a HAF-X with its side panel fan should bring a higher improvement.

 

If you have the traditional cooling ones, then the HAF-X 's VGA duct could also be very helpful to direct more air via the front.

 

However, given the bolded numbers above, it is hard to say with certainty whether the improvement would be 10C+.   I think it is highly possible because your are currently seeing a 5C improvement when the side panel is removed.  So, with the additional help of the HAF-X side panel fan and the VGA duct, another 5C is quite likely.

(I suppose if you do get a HAF-X, the RV01 will be sold to recover some money and so the net will not be $200)

 

Lastly, if you have an extra 92mm or 120mm fan, perhaps reconsider my previous suggestion of using such a fan at the top of the RV01 to facilitate the airflow exhaust.  You do not have to cut anything.  No permanent 'damage' at all.  Just remove all the unused PCI slot covers for better air movement.  The fan can be fixed with double sided Scotch tape or adhesive epoxy or Blu tack.

rv01 extract fan.JPG

 

 


Edited by windfire - 1/10/12 at 4:34pm
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One big question to you:- your sig rig points to an EVGA GTX570 having non traditional cooling (ie with a central fan and the card exhausts heat bi-directionally via the front and the rear = pic 1) while your pictures above seem to show EVGA GTX570s having traditional cooling (ie front centrifugal fan with uni-directional exhaust via the rear = pic 2).  Which is yours?

pic 1
600x600px-LL-5d72f5b7_gtx570a.jpeg
pic 2
600x600px-LL-3553632b_gtx570b.jpeg
If you have the non traditional cooling ones, this is another big reason why your GTX570s are having high temp inside a RV01 because the hot exhaust from the card's front just runs against the uprising fresh air, resulting in ineffective heat dissipation.  If so, then a HAF-X with its side panel fan should bring a higher improvement.

If you have the traditional cooling ones, then the HAF-X 's VGA duct could also be very helpful to direct more air via the front.

However, given the bolded numbers above, it is hard to say with certainty whether the improvement would be 10C+.   I think it is highly possible because your are currently seeing a 5C improvement when the side panel is removed.  So, with the additional help of the HAF-X side panel fan and the VGA duct, another 5C is quite likely.
(I suppose if you do get a HAF-X, the RV01 will be sold to recover some money and so the net will not be $200)

Lastly, if you have an extra 92mm or 120mm fan, perhaps reconsider my previous suggestion of using such a fan at the top of the RV01 to facilitate the airflow exhaust.  You do not have to cut anything.  No permanent 'damage' at all.  Just remove all the unused PCI slot covers for better air movement.  The fan can be fixed with double sided Scotch tape or adhesive epoxy or Blu tack.
600x419px-LL-a5b23be2_rv01extractfan.jpeg


I have the gTX570 that matches Pic2.

There are so many EVGA GTX570's if you go to newegg, like 10 of them. All the same but light differences. Mine has the fan offset to the end blowing air out the rear.

Superclocked version.

BTW GUYS:

i HOPE Someone else finds this thread if they need help but I wentinto EVGA precision and actually went into the options and turned on the "FAN PROFILE" Setting where the fan increases in intervals such as:

50% fan speed - 50degrees
60% fan speed - 60 degrees
70% fan speed - 70 degrees
etc.. and so on.... same 10 unit intervals parallel...


WELL, My cards aren't getting hotter than 70C on 100% load gaming 1920x1080 on HIGH SWTOR with both panels on.

WOW. The fan speed gets to 70% and its a little louder but totally fine and aceeptable.

I was using the custom profile before but never knew you could get it to do step intervals like that off the EVGA precision program.

I'm just going to keep it as is I guess - I'm really happy and happy I bought EVGA cards for their warranty and 3rd party software.

So other than that, I'm going to move on to overclocking my CPU - couldn't be happier, just hoping running the fans at 70% won't kill the fan. then again , these have lifetime warranty
post #15 of 31
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Before I watercooled, both my 580's would reach about 80'C @ Stock.

Yeah I thought about water cooling.

But I already invested into the Noctua and so on and so on, and teh setup would probably be out of my budget considering I'm a student and school is starting up again soon.

I wouldn't even have time to install it.

I have the great Noctua ND-d14 cooler, and I heard all the VGA Coolers for GPU's aren't meant for SLI so it's better to stick with the reference cooler.

So the only mod left I have to get my temps down really is WATER COOLING or NEW CASE since the Noctua is getting the CPU max at 49 which is amazing obviously, and the VGA coolers would fit but I've seen the performence in SLI setups and it's horrible.

So that's why I come to the HAF X since I read it was on top of the #3 cases for AIr cooling (Antec 900, HAF X, maybe Raven 02/03?)

I'm just not going to spend 199$ only to put my partsin the HAF X which would take 1-2hours then boot up and see my temps drop 5 degrees for 2 hours of my time and 199$

smile.gif so?

you mentioned you've got stock/reference cooelrs on your gpus....have you looked into putting an aftermarket cooler on there....not water, but a dual/tri fan, etc etc. would be a lot cheaper than a new case and you're on here so we all know ya dont mind tinkering around in a rig. biggrin.gif

oh, looks like problem solved then! Gl with the cpu OC!! thumb.gif
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post #16 of 31
The haf x is a great case but I'm not sure if it would reduce temps :S

It's funny when I bf3 my temps don't break 60c and my fan doesn't ramp past 23%, gpu usage is at 99% as well.

love my air con'd house (step dad has server racks and needs air con 24/7 XD
post #17 of 31
Your gonna see marginal gains by going with a half x especially with the way those card fans are configured imo. I had two 560 ti twin frozrs and with the side panal fan as an exaust sibce the cards dump the heat in the case and all the 200 mm fans replaced with megaflows I was still hitting high 70s. I know the vid cards can handle it but the noise made me want to punch babies. Water cooling would be a significant investment but would completely resolve the "problem" and your worries.

For your cards I would imagine that intake would be ideal in that area. Also be sure to check/clean your cards with an air cans early and often, a block in airflow would deff make temps a lot worse real quick
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Also, if it doesn't void the warranty, maybe consider reseating your four with new/ high end TIM. But I would expect marginal gains here again at best since both cards are near the same temps at load.

Does the raven have anything for pushing fresh air towards those graphics cards?
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post #19 of 31
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Also, if it doesn't void the warranty, maybe consider reseating your four with new/ high end TIM. But I would expect marginal gains here again at best since both cards are near the same temps at load.
Does the raven have anything for pushing fresh air towards those graphics cards?

thanks guys.

the best it has is a 180mm AP181 fan right under it but its a pretty amazing fan
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the Raven 01 is great but I heard the RV02 and RV03 are really plasticy feeling and there even cheaper than the RV01 so i don't know if that qualifies as an upgrade?

unfortunately, you bought the wrong case:( you REALLY should have asked around on the msg board before buying the RV01. just because some vender decided to charge the MSRP on a OLD case doesn't mean it's "better" then the newer more refined case. that's like saying a 5 year old xeon that cost $1000 is better then the latest 2600k at 1/3 of the price...

price does NOT always determine quality. the RV01 is a 1st generation design. it has its flaws, the flaws were fixed in the RV02. and if in the process of making a better design, they also found a way to make the same quality case at a cheaper price... more power to them. you keep using the amount of $ YOU paid as a metric for quality measurement and ignoring the fact that is plain as day just by looking at the case. simple math would tell you 3x ap181 WILL perform better then 2x ap181 regardless of what you paid for the RV01...

fact is you aren't facing up to the fact that you failed to do your research BEFORE buying the RV01 and are now discovering that case (although a decent case in it's own right) isn't as good as the case you could have gotten for the same $ or less. if you have made 1 post here BEFORE you bought the RV01, you would have gotten tons of answers telling you to buy the RV02 or the FT02 instead...

the community will help you, but DO realize that price does NOT equal quality. there are correlation of price/quality most of the time, but NOT always.
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