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post #11 of 25
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I will do some testing tonight once I get home and see the VRAM usage results for myself. Thanks a lot

No problems !

I wish it was shared, so that 1Gb + 1Gb the game could use 2Gb.
But it's not frown.gif
I had to shell a $40 prime over the 1Gb but I don't regret. In SLI they smoke BF3 on max settings in 3D with decent FPS (In fact it's playable, I'd say around 35-40 fps biggrin.gif)
post #12 of 25
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Obviously BF3 is the only game that requires this much VRAM. However, it's also the only game that my system cannot max out and it's due to a VRAM limitation.. If I'm gonna be stuck with the same issues with SLI enabled I'm gonna wait for Kepler then.

Do you think that my PCIe 2.0 board is going to be that much of an issue for future upgrades? I know taht right now we still have plenty of room on pci-e 2.0 buses even with a 590. It really sucks having spent 350$ or so on a mobo and now having to face such an issue, meh.
post #13 of 25
I understand your fear.
But to be honest with you, reviews have shown that the new PCI-E 3.0with a 7970 is just a notch (5%) better than the PCI-e 2.0.

So no worry, either 7970 or GTX 780 will be able to run flawlessly on your rig.
post #14 of 25
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7970 is still an entry level 28nm gpu tho but you must be right.

Thanks so much for your advice, I will live with my BF3 2x MSAA and wait until Kepler. Will sell my 560ti 448 cores after that.

The GTX 560ti 448 cores is such a good value that I wish I could hold onto it to build my son a computer....too bad he's only 2 months hold haha.
post #15 of 25
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7970 is still an entry level 28nm gpu tho but you must be right.
Thanks so much for your advice, I will live with my BF3 2x MSAA and wait until Kepler. Will sell my 560ti 448 cores after that.
The GTX 560ti 448 cores is such a good value that I wish I could hold onto it to build my son a computer....too bad he's only 2 months hold haha.

7970 is not the entry level, in fact it's high end.

High end
79xx
Mid end
78xx
77xx
Low end
76xx
75xx
Desktop
74xx
73xx

I'm pretty sure we will have much more powerful 28nm in a few years (8xxx or 7xx/8xx) but as of now, 7970 has the throne).


Time goes so fast, I remember playing N64 and thinking OH GOD THIS IS THE BOMB LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS.
Your son will know video games and he'll already play in 3D with super HD tv's xD
I didn't had that when I was a kid haha
Thinking about it, a GTX 560 must be at least 100 times more powerful than what we used to play on xD And yet we find a way to complain about a single settings we cannot activate hahaha
post #16 of 25
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if 79xx is their High end 28nm, I can't imagine what nvida has in store for us this summer.

with ony a ~ 20% margin over a GTX 580 i can't justify switching to the 7970 but maybe that's just me. I also prefer nvidia to ATI a lot. Got to admit I've always been a fan of their products since they made me replace my mighty Voodoo3 2000 with one of their Geforces back then haha.
post #17 of 25
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if 79xx is their High end 28nm, I can't imagine what nvida has in store for us this summer.
with ony a ~ 20% margin over a GTX 580 i can't justify switching to the 7970 but maybe that's just me. I also prefer nvidia to ATI a lot. Got to admit I've always been a fan of their products since they made me replace my mighty Voodoo3 2000 with one of their Geforces back then haha.

It wouldn't make sense to make a $500-$600 card that would be 2x as fast as a 580.
20% over last nvidia gen makes it best GPU.
It will stay like this for a few months, then Nvidia will come out with cards 20% faster than what AMD offers.
They will indeed come out with something very powerful which I can't wait for !

I'm also an Nvidia fan, but I've owned both brand and to be honest, the only advantage Nvidia has, is 3D Vision.

Generally, Nvidia has powerful cards but slightly priced higher than what competition offer.
AMD is a good bang for the buck and I think it's why it is still alive.

AMD and Intel just like AMD and Nvidia, AMD is cheaper and perform about the same.
Without AMD, there would be no competitions for Nvidia/Intel, we would still have gtx 260's and Dual Cores for $500.
That's why I try to build AMD rigs for my clients, cheaper, does the job, keep the competition alive. The result is me profiting better prices on better brands.
hehe
post #18 of 25
VRAM is mirrored, because both cards need to work on the same data sets.
Performance would go to hell if every other memory request was sent from one card to the other over the PCI-e bus... You'd have worse performance than with a single card.

Here's my philosophy on upgrades - don't upgrade if you don't have a definitive need. "Only" 2x AA is fine if you're running at a high res. Wait for the next game which requires more horsepower.

Stop worrying about stupid nuances... **** PCI-e 3... PCI-e 1.1 still works just fine here and today. Having the latest and greatest is great but really, if you stop looking at the FPS counter and start playing the game more, you'll find yourself happier.
Edited by xlink - 1/10/12 at 12:02pm
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post #19 of 25
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VRAM is mirrored, because both cards need to work on the same data sets.
Performance would go to hell if every other memory request was sent from one card to the other over the PCI-e bus... You'd have worse performance than with a single card.
Here's my philosophy on upgrades - don't upgrade if you don't have a definitive need. "Only" 2x AA is fine if you're running at a high res. Wait for the next game which requires more horsepower.

This, unless you play in 3D which require the extra Horse Power.
post #20 of 25
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After having this discussion, I've decided to hold onto my 560ti 448 cores for as long as I can. Also, it still has a lot of overclocking headroom as I'm currently only at 850mhz but on stock voltage. Pretty sure I can reach a stable 925 mhz with the right tweaks.

I guess it is also time to push my i7 to 5ghz, or at least try. I know many people have achieved insane overclocks with my motherboard. I've been too lazy and set it to 4.6ghz on auto mode.

I know it won't help the 1.2gb VRAM issue but it will give me an excuse to do it wink.gif

When Kepler is around the corner, I'll see what I do next

Thanks!
Edited by neotrix - 1/10/12 at 12:50pm
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