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I'm not sure why people are complaining about Apple references in an article from the website "MacRumors.com." The original article is from Engadget so you could read it there.
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This is useless for gaming. This high dpi is nothing but a gimmick, I'd much rather have a standard dpi 27" monitor that's cheap, than this. Busides, its completely useless for anything that isn't pc-generated or that a pc is too weak to generate: movies, photos, gaming, etc. And its not like the text on my laptop screen is pixelated when I'm browsing the net.
Basically, there is no issue or demand that this technology is fixing/satisfying, it is pointless.

Depending on what you consider as "standard PPI," 27" monitors already exist for under $300.
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Just to try to clear some things up and share my thoughts:
To use a resolution that is unsupported in a GPU, such as this, you could just two cables, so each side of the screens acts as a single screen. This can lead to some screen tear and such, but would still look great IMO.
I will probably get 1 of these when the prices drop, hopefully in a year or two. Right now I can see this releasing at $1000+.
EDIT: Also, it would be nice to see an IPS version of this, although you'd have to sell your house for it.

Monitors with this resolution will likely use displayport which supports 3840x2160 up to 60Hz. BTW, this is an IPS panel. It's IPS-alpha which was originally developed by Hitachi. LG's version of IPS (eIPS and H-IPS) are more commonly used in monitors.
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This is useless for gaming. This high dpi is nothing but a gimmick, I'd much rather have a standard dpi 27" monitor that's cheap, than this. Busides, its completely useless for anything that isn't pc-generated or that a pc is too weak to generate: movies, photos, gaming, etc. And its not like the text on my laptop screen is pixelated when I'm browsing the net.
Basically, there is no issue or demand that this technology is fixing/satisfying, it is pointless.
How is this useless for gaming? The higher PPI will remove much of the need for anti-aliasing and just make everything look amazing.

Photos are too weak for a PC to generate? What? High resolution photos would look fantastic on it, as would high resolution video.
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This is useless for gaming. This high dpi is nothing but a gimmick, I'd much rather have a standard dpi 27" monitor that's cheap, than this. Busides, its completely useless for anything that isn't pc-generated or that a pc is too weak to generate: movies, photos, gaming, etc. And its not like the text on my laptop screen is pixelated when I'm browsing the net.
Basically, there is no issue or demand that this technology is fixing/satisfying, it is pointless.
What on earth are you talking about?

Wouldn't you like to not need Anti-Aliasing? Ever heard of Photoshop? These screens would be fantastic for graphic designers.
     
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Put this in an Asus! wheee.gif
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What on earth are you talking about?
Wouldn't you like to not need Anti-Aliasing? Ever heard of Photoshop? These screens would be fantastic for graphic designers.

I'd take anti aliasing over 2fps(or 20 minute battery life).
resolution? photoshop? wha?
Which reminds me, what is the brightness and contrast ratio of this LG panel?
Only thing I could find in the article was "ultra-high brightness" and "excellent contrast" which is pretty vague...
Oh hold on:
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Originally Posted by engadget 
2) Thinnest in the world(*1) and energy-efficient

Thanks to the newly developed pixel structure with ultra-high aperture ratio, the industry's top-level IPS Alpha panel transmittance becomes approximately twice that of the conventional structures(*8). Since the new pixel structure allows for effective use of backlight, the thickness has been reduced to 3.5 mm, the thinnest in the world as a 4K2K panel. Furthermore, compared to full HD LCD panel of the same size, the new ultra-high definition 4K2K panel produces four times the volume of information using the equivalent amount of electricity.

Hmm, reminds me of RGBW pentile LCD's. I don't really have a problem with this, though I still think resolution is the least important thing to me in a display.
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It's always amusing watching people try to come up with reasons to flame Apple whenever they seem poised to do something technically impressive.
Edited by mountains - 1/11/12 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Waltibaba View Post

This is useless for gaming. This high dpi is nothing but a gimmick, I'd much rather have a standard dpi 27" monitor that's cheap, than this. Busides, its completely useless for anything that isn't pc-generated or that a pc is too weak to generate: movies, photos, gaming, etc. And its not like the text on my laptop screen is pixelated when I'm browsing the net.
Basically, there is no issue or demand that this technology is fixing/satisfying, it is pointless.
What on earth are you talking about?

Wouldn't you like to not need Anti-Aliasing? Ever heard of Photoshop? These screens would be fantastic for graphic designers.

It's on a 20in screen lol. It makes sense on a 70in screen or projected upto 110in, but rofl, 20in screen. Durr aok!
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It's always amusing watching people try to come up with reasons to flame Apple whenever they seem poised to do something technically impressive.

qft...getting ready for the anti apple rage in 3...2...1..
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This will be over $9000.

No seriously, even 2560x1440 IPS displays are crazy expensive. I would want this, I DO want this, but it's not hard to imagine how obscenely expensive these high DPI panels will be. If they end up using this, the next macbook pro will cost more than most used cars.
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Considering the 27" 2560x1440 IPS panel (the actual LCD part, nothing else) that's in my Cinema Display and many other monitors runs about $700, so a 20" 3840 x 2160 panel should run at least in the $1200 range, so expecting those monitors to cost at least $1500 retail. 20" seems a weird size to me. Too big to fit in a laptop, but too small for a desktop monitor.

I wouldn't want it to run at the full resolution, just a scaled up 1920x1080. It'd be way too small, considering how this screen makes everything look and it's a 27".

The 15" MacBook Pro screen res they want to double is 1440x900, which is 2880x1800, the next logical step from the higher res iPad screen. This at least shows that manufactures are getting ready for these, but they'll of course have a really high starting price.
Edited by Lareson - 1/11/12 at 6:40pm
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