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post #41 of 75
Looking very nice. It's looking to be like what i saying last year about 2012 seems notebooks (ultraportable to midrange) will be AMD's market and desktop CPU's(midrange to highend) will be Intel (with exception of APU desktops etc). It is nice to see the improvements they can do to bulldozer and the onboard GPU. At least there demonstration wasn't a video of someone playing a game. tongue.gif

It is going to be a good year for anyone looking to upgrade laptop and desktops smile.gif
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post #42 of 75
Must get laptop with trinity apu!
post #43 of 75
So, does this mean that a pile driver CPU could be coming soon? Or a successor to Llano? I'm not really familiar with AMD.
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NOPE! Waiting for legit reviews before passing judgement. Actually let me rephrase, waiting for it to be in the consumers hands with our own reviews before I touch one. redface.gif
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Originally Posted by David164v8 View Post

So, does this mean that a pile driver CPU could be coming soon? Or a successor to Llano? I'm not really familiar with AMD.

The desktop version of PD is not due to be out till like the late second half of this year but this chip that they are talking about is due to be out really soon. Best part of that video was when they removed the side panel of the case biggrin.gif Can't wait to see these in the hands of our fellow OC'ers and reviewers to see what this thing can really do thumb.gif
post #46 of 75
I have been waiting to replace my aging Gateway P7811-FX laptop (Core 2). If the video is any indication, Trinity will earn serious consideration for a new lappy. Good job AMD!
post #47 of 75
Seriously it's so annoying seeing everyone speculate about Piledriver and desktop Trinity. This article is about 17W Trinity for netbooks/ultraportables.
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Intel dropped TDP by dropping clocks. Why can't AMD?
This isn't bobcat based (28nm bobcats are DOA). This also isn't 28nm (all bulldozer and phenom are full-node chips, so the next shrink is 22nm in a year or two).
If piledriver can fix the problems with bulldozer, then this is very possible. Fixing branch prediction (just to be on par with Phenom II) should net 5-15% performance improvement. Fixing decoder width (probably 5-6 units instead of 4) would net another gain of 5-20% (depends on how instruction starved the system is). Better fabs could net 5-30% increase due to reducing cache latency and could net even more through higher turbo clocks. I'm not that optimistic, but I am interested.
A more efficient die layout that borrows some cues from GCN combined with more 32nm full-node optimizations could net huge power savings for the GPU. Switching to VLIW4 gives 10+% improvement per shader. If fabs allow a higher clockspeed, then keeping the 400 shaders could be possible.

So let's just assume it's a tweak of Llano that uses 17W instead of comparing to Brazos/Bobcat.

First, Llano is 32nm. Trinity is 32nm. The current 35W Llano uses a 400 SP GPU. Now, 17W Trinity might be around 240 SP's at best. No way you're squeezing 400 SP's in it, (minimum you'd need to get a 50% GPU gain over 35W Llano - and that's asuming 20% gain from faster RAM, 10% from VLIW4, and 30% magic pulled from thin air).

Realistically, the CPU gain will be pretty small over Llano, not that anyone cares. What you guys are assuming is Trinity will have a GPU with over twice the performance per watt, on the same process. This is just ridiculous.
 
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post #48 of 75
I'm actually really surprised of this chip's performance, look like we'll have a much more interesting year in terms of competition.
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Oh AMD, give me a reason not to update my server/retro gaming rig with a Trinity APU.
   
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post #50 of 75

<----sits and waits. I ain't believing anything till the public gets the goods. Period.

 

Interesting though.

 

The surprise was awesome. I would have been fully satisfied if he was able to follow the wires back to the monitor.

 

Skeptical.

 

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