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Ahhh man doh.gif this is why I should never trust any other website but ocn... When surfing on the web for any similar problems, first suggestion was to defrag (and the user had specifically mentioned he was using an SSD). But if that's the problem, why'd it start before I defragged? And if I back up all my data on the SSD and reload it after the wipe, will that affect it? And so I don't mess this up too... what is the safest way to wipe just the ssd without accidentally nuking my other hdd's?

Edit: and yes I've run a full system scan. Run one every other week generally but I've run about 5 in the past week. WIll run another right now while I'm out of the house.
Edited by Fiyace - 1/12/12 at 9:22am
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post #12 of 19
before trying the reinstall:

download ccleaner and combofix

run combofix and let it do its thing
after it restarts and combofix finishes run ccleaner

this should help if it is a windows or registry error

good luck and keep us updated
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If you are reinstalling I suggest you Secure erase your SSD first. Make sure all other drives are unplugged when doing so, as well as when you reinstall.

How to: Secure Erase Your SSD! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
This is how to secure a SSD with parted magic. Hopefully this will help out people who have never done it before and can get a little boost in performance after a few months of heavy use.

Secure Erase:
  1. Download parted magic and make a bootable CD or USB: Parted Magic
  2. Once bootable load it and select option 1 (default settings)
    340
  3. Once booted, at the main screen got to Start > System Tools > Erase Disk
    452
  4. Now select the "Internal:Secure Erase command writes zeroes to entire data area" option which will write zeroes to your entire data area" option
    451
  5. Select the disk that you want to secure erase
    373
  6. If you get a message stating that your SSD drive is "frozen," click the Sleep button to put your PC to sleep, then wake up your system and start over from Step 3. If you don't get this message, move on to Step 7.
    217
  7. Some drives indicate that they have a password requirement. Leave the password as "NULL" and click OK.
    312
  8. Now a verify window will pop up, select "Yes" to continue.
    Note: If it prompts you to use the "enhanced" or "advanced" method do not use it, click no, it can write random data, and there is also the possibility that it may access parts of the drive that it shouldn't!
    234
  9. This shouldn't take long on your SSD, most likely only a few seconds. Now you are done.
    95

    Freeze Locked:
    If your SSD is being "Freeze Locked" or not showing up then try this:
    You will get an option to put the PC to sleep, try that first then try to Secure Erase again, if that doesn't work try below:
    1. Reboot
    2. Enable AHCI mode in the UEFI/BIOS and "hot swap" on the SATA ports
    3. Save & exit
    4. Turn off the computer
    5. Unplug EVERYTHING on your SATA ports except for your CD/DVD drive
    6. Turn on and boot to Parted Magic
    7. When in the main GUI plug your SSD into a normal SATA 2 port
      Note: Basically "Freeze Locking" your SSD will not let it be allowed to be Secure Erased. If the UEFI/BIOS recognizes the SSD as plugged in at boot up then it will lock it. If you plug in the SSD after the computer is on then it will not be locked and it should be able to be Secure Erased normally.

Then follow my install guide.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-guide-optimization-for-ssds-hdds
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

If you are reinstalling I suggest you Secure erase your SSD first. Make sure all other drives are unplugged when doing so, as well as when you reinstall.
How to: Secure Erase Your SSD! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
This is how to secure a SSD with parted magic. Hopefully this will help out people who have never done it before and can get a little boost in performance after a few months of heavy use.
Secure Erase:
  1. Download parted magic and make a bootable CD or USB: Parted Magic
  2. Once bootable load it and select option 1 (default settings)
    340
  3. Once booted, at the main screen got to Start > System Tools > Erase Disk
    452
  4. Now select the "Internal:Secure Erase command writes zeroes to entire data area" option which will write zeroes to your entire data area" option
    451
  5. Select the disk that you want to secure erase
    373
  6. If you get a message stating that your SSD drive is "frozen," click the Sleep button to put your PC to sleep, then wake up your system and start over from Step 3. If you don't get this message, move on to Step 7.
    217
  7. Some drives indicate that they have a password requirement. Leave the password as "NULL" and click OK.
    312
  8. Now a verify window will pop up, select "Yes" to continue.
    Note: If it prompts you to use the "enhanced" or "advanced" method do not use it, click no, it can write random data, and there is also the possibility that it may access parts of the drive that it shouldn't!
    234
  9. This shouldn't take long on your SSD, most likely only a few seconds. Now you are done.
    95
    Freeze Locked:
    If your SSD is being "Freeze Locked" or not showing up then try this:
    You will get an option to put the PC to sleep, try that first then try to Secure Erase again, if that doesn't work try below:
    1. Reboot
    2. Enable AHCI mode in the UEFI/BIOS and "hot swap" on the SATA ports
    3. Save & exit
    4. Turn off the computer
    5. Unplug EVERYTHING on your SATA ports except for your CD/DVD drive
    6. Turn on and boot to Parted Magic
    7. When in the main GUI plug your SSD into a normal SATA 2 port
      Note: Basically "Freeze Locking" your SSD will not let it be allowed to be Secure Erased. If the UEFI/BIOS recognizes the SSD as plugged in at boot up then it will lock it. If you plug in the SSD after the computer is on then it will not be locked and it should be able to be Secure Erased normally.
Then follow my install guide.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-guide-optimization-for-ssds-hdds

+1

it is an awesome tutorial and has helped me greatly
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post #15 of 19
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The guide has been great so far, thanks. However, I've run into a bit of a snag - was able to do the clean wipe and was in the middle of installing windows after partitioning the drive, and when I go to install it, it says "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk is of the GPT partition style." If I didn't realize you needn't partition your disk for a SSD is there a way to undo that...? And reformat it so it's no longer GPT..?

Edit: so I hit some buttons and typed some things (in my-speak, I have no freakin' clue what I did to make this happen) but it turns out that I unpartitioned it so there's only one part now and it's now of whatever format works - when I went to install it (just to see if it would work this time) when I went into the custom install section there was only the one part showing as opposed to the two previously and the one is now accepting of having Windows installed on it...although it seems to be stuck at "Expanding Windows files" at 0%. Will see if it eventually works.

Edit 2: Yeah. It's workin'.
Edited by Fiyace - 1/12/12 at 8:30pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiyace View Post

The guide has been great so far, thanks. However, I've run into a bit of a snag - was able to do the clean wipe and was in the middle of installing windows after partitioning the drive, and when I go to install it, it says "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk is of the GPT partition style." If I didn't realize you needn't partition your disk for a SSD is there a way to undo that...? And reformat it so it's no longer GPT..?
Edit: so I hit some buttons and typed some things (in my-speak, I have no freakin' clue what I did to make this happen) but it turns out that I unpartitioned it so there's only one part now and it's now of whatever format works - when I went to install it (just to see if it would work this time) when I went into the custom install section there was only the one part showing as opposed to the two previously and the one is now accepting of having Windows installed on it...although it seems to be stuck at "Expanding Windows files" at 0%. Will see if it eventually works.
Edit 2: Yeah. It's workin'.

Hey Fiyace - PM Sean Webster personally. There isn't a more helpful person on this site. I'm sure he would walk you through how to set your SSD up to run its optimum.
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yeah hes a great guy, but in his optimize post it says he wont answer PMs about it but instead just post in that thread.
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I saw, but acutally I think i got it working! Computer is up and running and no longer has and freezing issues!

Edit: Been a day and still no issues! Thanks everyone for your help. Repped all in the thread.
Edited by Fiyace - 1/13/12 at 1:09pm
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awesome! congrats!
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