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Why does that setup which you often have recommended not have bass blockers? It is basically two passive speakers (Dayton B652), a subwoofer (Dayton SUB-1200) and an amp (Dayton DTA-100a) which I suppose sends full range to all (satellites and subwoofers).

Sorry if this has already been explained and I still have not been able to understand.

Because with that setup, you run speaker wire to the sub from the amp. Then from the sub to the speakers. The way the Dayton subs work with the crossovers, if you're using line level inputs (speaker wire), then the crossover acts as a high pass for the speakers, as well as a low pass for the subwoofer.
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Because with that setup, you run speaker wire to the sub from the amp. Then from the sub to the speakers. The way the Dayton subs work with the crossovers, if you're using line level inputs (speaker wire), then the crossover acts as a high pass for the speakers, as well as a low pass for the subwoofer.



Thank you! Now I understand.

Can you recommend more products for use in a 2.1 system with passive speakers and external amplifier that are suitable for use with desktop PCs, or this recommendation based on Dayton Audio is killer in terms of cost-benefit ratio?

For example, I see that this solution of the Dayton Audio is very inexpensive. What would you recommend for about $500 if there is something that cost worthwhile?

In other words, if possible, recommend more sets 2.1 as an alternative and in other price ranges.
    
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Because with that setup, you run speaker wire to the sub from the amp. Then from the sub to the speakers. The way the Dayton subs work with the crossovers, if you're using line level inputs (speaker wire), then the crossover acts as a high pass for the speakers, as well as a low pass for the subwoofer.



Thank you! Now I understand.

Can you recommend more products for use in a 2.1 system with passive speakers and external amplifier that are suitable for use with desktop PCs, or this recommendation based on Dayton Audio is killer in terms of cost-benefit ratio?

For example, I see that this solution of the Dayton Audio is very inexpensive. What would you recommend for about $500 if there is something that cost worthwhile?

In other words, if possible, recommend more sets 2.1 as an alternative and in other price ranges.

For a more expensive setup, I would personally be looking at:

Dayton DTA-100a (possible 30v power supply mod)
Polk Monitor 40's, Klipsh WB-14 Icons, BIC Venturi, BIC Formula, or any other choice of $200ish speakers
Subwoofer - BIC Formula F12 or Polk PSW505

It all comes down to what the user exactly is planning to do with their setup obviously, and there's a TON of great $200 (rough) speakers out there. I only know a few personally. For the money, yes...the all Dayton setup really can't be beat. It's a solid starter kit, that's for sure. It would help ease somebody into audio, without spending $200+ on bookshelfs alone, as they'd have the flexibility to try out any speakers and sub they'd want.
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For a more expensive setup, I would personally be looking at:
Dayton DTA-100a (possible 30v power supply mod)
Polk Monitor 40's, Klipsh WB-14 Icons, BIC Venturi, BIC Formula, or any other choice of $200ish speakers
Subwoofer - BIC Formula F12 or Polk PSW505
It all comes down to what the user exactly is planning to do with their setup obviously, and there's a TON of great $200 (rough) speakers out there. I only know a few personally. For the money, yes...the all Dayton setup really can't be beat. It's a solid starter kit, that's for sure. It would help ease somebody into audio, without spending $200+ on bookshelfs alone, as they'd have the flexibility to try out any speakers and sub they'd want.

This^ but honestly if your starting to look into expensive speakers like I recommend investing in a receiver instead of that amp...
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Thank you all.

Please recommend some 30 VDC PSUs to be used with DTA-100a, whether what you call mod is actually replacing of the power supply.

I guess the replacement of its 24 VDC PSU by a 30 VDC PSU brings 25% increase in power of the amplifier. Thus, DTA-100a will increase from 50 WPC to 62.5 WPC. It still would be little power to speakers such as BIC FH-65B, BIC DV52si, Klipsch WB-14, etc. though.

So I searched for receivers and I found nothing that was suitable for use with a PC. They’re big and have DAC, what wouldn’t be desired because the workstation PC would already have a good sound card. If the DTA-100a doesn’t provide enough power without distortion for such speakers, what would other amps, like it, be recommended?
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Thank you all.
Please recommend some 30 VDC PSUs to be used with DTA-100a, whether what you call mod is actually replacing of the power supply.
I guess the replacement of its 24 VDC PSU by a 30 VDC PSU brings 25% increase in power of the amplifier. Thus, DTA-100a will increase from 50 WPC to 62.5 WPC. It still would be little power to speakers such as BIC FH-65B, BIC DV52si, Klipsch WB-14, etc. though.
So I searched for receivers and I found nothing that was suitable for use with a PC. They’re big and have DAC, what wouldn’t be desired because the workstation PC would already have a good sound card. If the DTA-100a doesn’t provide enough power without distortion for such speakers, what would other amps, like it, be recommended?

Id love to see some recommendations for a 30vdc psu for the DTA-100a, Would like to pick one up if it makes a difference in sound.
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Thank you all.

Please recommend some 30 VDC PSUs to be used with DTA-100a, whether what you call mod is actually replacing of the power supply.

I guess the replacement of its 24 VDC PSU by a 30 VDC PSU brings 25% increase in power of the amplifier. Thus, DTA-100a will increase from 50 WPC to 62.5 WPC. It still would be little power to speakers such as BIC FH-65B, BIC DV52si, Klipsch WB-14, etc. though.

So I searched for receivers and I found nothing that was suitable for use with a PC. They’re big and have DAC, what wouldn’t be desired because the workstation PC would already have a good sound card. If the DTA-100a doesn’t provide enough power without distortion for such speakers, what would other amps, like it, be recommended?

You do realize that most receivers are only about 60-75w RMS per channel, right? The DTA-100a does 30-40w RMS cleanly with the stock PSU, and about 50-60w RMS with the updated PSU (rough guesses, I haven't measured it myself yet). It's got more than enough power to drive just about any pair of speakers you could want.
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I’m sorry for I have no realized this. And for my mistake on to think a receiver is more powerful than DTA-100a.

I was thinking that DTA-100a were insufficient for those speakers because, e.g., BIC recommends 125 WPC for DV52si (Venturi) and 175 WPC for DV62si (Venturi) and for FH-65B (Formula). Klipsch recommends 100 Watts for its WB-14 (Icon W), but I don’t know if is per channel or the sum.

What about following setup?

Energy CB-10
BIC America Formula F-12
Dayton Audio DTA-100a
Monoprice 50ft Speaker Wire Cable (2749)
Monoprice 6ft 3.5mm Stereo Male to 2RCA Male Cable (5598)

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I’m sorry for I have no realized this. And for my mistake on to think a receiver is more powerful than DTA-100a.

I was thinking that DTA-100a were insufficient for those speakers because, e.g., BIC recommends 125 WPC for DV52si (Venturi) and 175 WPC for DV62si (Venturi) and for FH-65B (Formula). Klipsch recommends 100 Watts for its WB-14 (Icon W), but I don’t know if is per channel or the sum.

What about following setup?

Energy CB-10
BIC America Formula F-12
Dayton Audio DTA-100a
Monoprice 50ft Speaker Wire Cable (2749)
Monoprice 6ft 3.5mm Stereo Male to 2RCA Male Cable (5598)

Feel free to recommend any changing or stuff.

That would do very VERY nicely for movies and TV shows. I'd recommend changing the sub to the Polk PSW505 instead if you want music on it as well. The PSW505 is a little bit better at fast response than the F12 is. Otherwise its a good choice.

And receivers DO have more power. The DTA-100a is going to be more than enough though. And yes, those speakers can handle that kind of power that you quoted. That's per speaker (usually). That doesn't mean that they REQUIRE than much power just to run. That's just what they'll take.
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60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
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Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
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Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
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