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Hello, I am looking to upgrade my current 9.99 mouse to a middle of the road gaming mouse. I really just play FPS and some skyrim now so I don't think button count should really be a necessity. I have never used a gaming mouse, or any mouse that cost any sort of money, and would really like to stick with a mouse that I don't have to program a bunch of features with. I'm looking to stay around 50 dollars. Also, is there a difference between one mouse pad to the other? If so recommend me a good pad you know of, Thanks!

I have been leaning towards the G500 after reading some reviews and threads on OCN. Just would like some input before I make a purchase, thanks again for your time!

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I have a big problem with my G500 due to the sensor position. It's not positioned in the dead centre of the mouse, but more close to the front. It causes problems with lift off distance and makes everything feel weird moving around in fps and rts games.

The G500 is great though for WoW or SWTOR because it has lots of buttons to map things to.

I would recommend the Xai over the G500 though because it has a much better sensor position, high build quality and dead centre sensor position. Best mouse I've ever used.
Edited by james_ant - 1/11/12 at 1:27pm
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I personally love my G5 .
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G500 gets my vote
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Well to be honest i have never really used the G500, however might i recommend that you look at the G9x now that's a solid mouse with plenty of experience under its belt, though a bit more expensive than the G500 by around 10/15$ and has only 5 buttons.
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You know the grip you use would really help us in picking one.
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post #7 of 15
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Currently my mouse it pretty small, so I have to claw grip it... very uncomfortable... Before this mouse I used a trackball for 10 yrs or so... I don't know if I have ever used a regular mouse that I could play around with different grip styles frown.gif
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Personally, I love my Mionix 3200. Being new to gaming mice, you'll probably like pretty much any quality mice you buy, so decide if you're picky about buttons/size/weight/lpointless lighting/ergonomics first. If you don't care about any of that, I recommend one of the Mionix Naos mice for one simple reason: their ergonomics are awesome. Many people who get them say they are the most comfortable mice they've ever used. And their sensors are good, too. The cooler master spawn mouse has a similar but shorter ergonomic shape and is cheaper as well, but I hear less rave reviews.

On the other hand, if you're not right-handed, or lift your mouse off your mousepad often, the Naos 3200 isn't that great. The Naos 5000 has an adjustable lift distance though. Everyone has different tastes, so perhaps you'd prefer a mouse with a giant freaking hump that feels like a mountain pressing into the palm of your hand. Logitech it is! At least some of their models, I've only had a few. I think most people adopt their grip to the first mouse they like rather than the other way around, but it sounds like you already have a starting point with no small mice, so that's useful.

As for sensors, you pretty much have four big choices: quality optical, quality laser, ****ty optical or ****ty laser. When it comes to quality laser mice you pretty much want an Avago 9500 sensor or one of the Razer Lasers (phillips sensor: no minor problems with acceleration but not as sensitive or touchy as the 9500 - personally I don't like the touchiness of the super-sensitive laser mice - it sometimes shifts a pixel when I didn't intend it to move). For quality optical sensors, you'll want an Avago 3090, 3060, or one of the exclusive Razer optical sensors (Avago 3X88). How to tell what mouse has what sensor? Mouse Reference Thread in the stickies of this sub-forum. ****ty optical sensors include the Pixart sensors (minor hardware bug that can't be fixed by software) - I haven't heard many good things about non 9500 or Razer Laser mice, so I can't call any of those out.

Too open-ended for you? Anything that has a quality sensor listed above and gets ok reviews should do fine. Get a Naos 3200, download the driver, set the polling rate to 1000Mhz, turn off acceleration, set the DPI sensitivity to 1600, and enjoy. But anyone on this forum can (and will) recommend their favorite mouse without much explanation smile.gif. Oh, if you're looking to stay around $50 you can rule out most of the quality laser options.

As for mousepads: for optical mice it doesn't matter all that much. I get pretty good performance on basically any surface. My old mousepad was wearing out after like 12 years of use, now I'm using my desktop, lol. Laser mice are trickier (and more sensitive to textured surfaces). If you get a Laser mouse, make sure to get a mouse pad, and especially for the Avago 9500 sensors, make sure to get a mouse pad with a hard (NOT cloth) surface. Pick your favorite company or e-sports sponsor and grab whatever hard pad they offer if you go laser.

The g500 is one of the Avago 9500 sensor mice, and not the best reviewed for the reasons a few have already stated. On the other hand, if it meets your under $50 requirement, it's one of the cheaper implementations of that sensor, and some people like the atrocrious shape of logitech mice. The Xai mentioned above is another Avago 9500 mouse if you want to consider that as well. Make sure to budget for a hard top mouse pad for it though.

Look around to see how to set your mouse settings (for instance, windows mouse speed set to 6/11 to avoid software interference, in-game settings for a game like SC2 set to 51% speed/sensitivity. Then try out the various DPI whatever mouse you get can do. For instance, when I got my Naos 3200, I tried 800 for about a day before I was sure it was too slow for me. Then I tried 3200 for a week trying to get used to playing at a high speed. Then I decided that was too fast to be accurate, and I've been happy with 1600 DPI ever since. Optical mice have limited settings, whereas most laser mice can fine-tune DPI. But as you are new to gaming mice, fast/medium/slow options should be enough to get in the right ballpark for you, and you'll simply learn to use that setting, so fine-tuning won't really be needed.
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post #9 of 15
I think the best "entry" gaming mouse is definitely the logitech MX518 or its newer incarnation, the G400. The G400 now is also one of the best gaming mice period.

The shape is good for most hands and grip-styles (no fingertip, though), the sensor ist very good, especially in the most recent G400s which have no prediction. Works flawlessly on any mousepad on the market.
I think it has just the perfect amount of buttons for gaming and pc work, with nice omron switches.
Requires no drivers and you can safely ignore the logitech software.
Build quality is good and the price is a steal for the performance. As an allround-package, i can't think of any mouse that comes close to the G400.

To quote from another thread:
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Originally Posted by Skylit 
Yep. G400 has price/performance/warranty locked down.
post #10 of 15
I too would recomend the G400 or DeathAdder as starters mice.
They have one of the most known shapes in the market, and the G400 is a superb all-rounder(palm, claw, fingertip, decent sensor, quality).

I also used the MX518(old G400) as fingertip, and it worked better than the CM Spawn(my hands are also small, and I could almost palm the CM).
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