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I breezed through the thread and found a wonderful plethora of useful info. So yay! Will this be applicable to the upcoming Z77 ASrock boards? I'm sure that the EUFI Bios will be close enough to that of SB?
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I breezed through the thread and found a wonderful plethora of useful info. So yay! Will this be applicable to the upcoming Z77 ASrock boards? I'm sure that the EUFI Bios will be close enough to that of SB?

My guess would be it would be nearly the same.

Of course all boards even on the same platform have different options, but I think all of the "important" stuff remains the same.
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No idea. I don't know why people would even want to use LLC unless they are unstable at idle. I use LLC level 5 (i.e., the lowest for Asrock) and a -.060 offset for a 45 multi, all C states enabled. I stress test this system with Prime 95 version 27.4, which uses AVX instructions and thus is a more stringent stability test. Load ranges from 1.232 to 1.256 mostly, with it hanging around 1.240-1.248. I've never paid any attention to VID--it just doesn't actually seem helpful (tells me to get my vcore way too high), and I don't know why people use it as a guide of any sort. Perhaps it's more useful for most chips/mobos, and just not mine.
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Here are the settings. I failed to specify, but everything I didn't list above was set to auto/default. I started with this guide to get my feet wet, and I've since been following the Sandy Stable Club guide, which has some great info too. Unfortunately, my computer bluescreened (code 101: more Vcore) after only a couple hours of prime 27.4 last night. It always goes for a few hours (previously 4 or 6); this is the first time I've had that 101 BSOD instead of 124.
CPU ratio 45
Internal PLL Overvoltage disabled
Intel Speed step Enabled
Short duration 300
Long duration 300
Long duration (sec.) 1
Additional turbo voltage Auto
Core Current limit 300
BLCK 100.00
Spread Spectrum disabled
Power savings disabled
Offset Mode -0.060 (now -.055)
Dram voltage Auto [ 1.529 (9-9-9-24]
LLC Level 5 ( 5 is lowest & 1 is highest)
PLL: 1.750
VTT: 1.057
C1e Enabled
C3 Enabled
C6 Enabled
C state support Auto
Edit: Bios is 1.20.



Thanks a bunch for the info!

I just tried your settings and they work just fine with less vcore voltage than what I had. My Vcore before ranged from 1.296 to 1.304 reguardless of what LLC was set to.


Vcore ranged from 1.232 to 1.248 with it hanging around 1.248 or so. Idle was at 0.888 volts.

Ambient temp = 24.9c
CPU temps at load = 57 58 58 57 (Running a little cooler by about 5 degrees)
Max temp = 60 62 62 60

You do have the E3 Gen3 board right?

My BIOS version is: P1.30 which came is what it came with.

Now to do a longer test.
I'm also using Prime 27.4

Thanks again.
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First, +0.05v was a huge typo mistake and will be changed. I meant the lowest possible +offset.
Second, I always thoughts that offset would only change the voltage you would get with all stock settings. I wasn't aware it also changed per each multiplier. I may have to fix this part up.

I see you changed the guide for the +0.005. Thanks!

Excellent guide you put together here!
Edited by Turtley - 3/25/12 at 11:43am
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Thanks a bunch for the info!
I just tried your settings and they work just fine with less vcore voltage than what I had. My Vcore before ranged from 1.296 to 1.304 reguardless of what LLC was set to.
Vcore ranged from 1.232 to 1.248 with it hanging around 1.248 or so. Idle was at 0.888 volts.
Ambient temp = 24.9c
CPU temps at load = 57 58 58 57 (Running a little cooler by about 5 degrees)
Max temp = 60 62 62 60
You do have the E3 Gen3 board right?
My BIOS version is: P1.30 which came is what it came with.
Now to do a longer test.
I'm also using Prime 27.4
Thanks again.

Nice temps; did you use stock TIM? The A70 and 212+ are supposed to perform about the same (the A70 has more mass, I believe, and it has 2 fans stock); I'm wondering why my temps are so much higher. What program are you monitoring with? I'm using Open Hardware monitor, which gives the same readings as RealTemp (and hotter than, say, HWMonitor from Techpowerup). Could also be the FFT setting, but that would really only explain it if you never tested at a small FFT length (e.g., 8k, 12k, 16k). Maybe I need to reseat--the A70 was a PITA to seat with one person.

Yes, I have the E3 Gen3. I apparently can't figure out how to get my rig to display in the signature section.
post #156 of 9531
I failed to mention that the test was at 4.3 Ghz (43) instead of 4.5 (45). I'm going to test 4.5 Ghz (45) next to see if the temps hold the same. I think there will be a slight increase in temp as well as VCore.


Yes, I used the stock tim which came with the 212. I think from what I have read here it is the old tim which is in a blue container. I ended up using the whole container though. Lol!


I applied the tim as suggested on this forum by applying tim to the crevices between the tubes and aluminum, spreading that out with a business card. Then applying 3 lines of tim before seating and securing the heat sink.


I use RealTemp to monitor my CPU temps. HWmonitor is a pretty good one as well. RealTemp reads pretty much the same as the temp in the AXTU software which came with our motherboards. However AXTU only shows one CPU temp.


I started out overclock testing using the stock FFT settings in prime but changed to using stock blend settings instead of FFT.


To get your rig to show up, go to your signature and add signature text.


For my signature text I added:
Intel I5 2500k
ASRock Extreme3 Gen3

Put whatever you want there or maybe just a space if you don't want any text.


EDIT:
I just tried 4.5 Ghz and windows failed to load. Just locks during load. You're doing good to get 4.5 with your settings.
For the time being 4.3 Ghz is fine for me.
Edited by Turtley - 3/25/12 at 6:08pm
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So far im almost 4 hours in to prime 95 Small FFT. Im at 45 multi and a +0.015 offset w/ CPU-z voltages around 1.296-1.304. Hopefully it stays stable
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I still can't believe it took up to 14 posts for me to post about the +0.05 offset or the fact that when you increase the multiplier the voltage would increase so you are no "longer finder the highest ratio per stock voltage".... rolleyes.gif

I mean, wth, I can understand the thread poster makes typos, but seriously, not one person here found that it was weird to jump up to 3.7 ghz or even 4.0ghz and have your motherboards start defaulting the voltage to 1.3++????

No wonder kids fry there computers overclocking: had some newb attempted 'OC'ing in this guide, say he went up to the 4.0ghz +, his board would have exceeded 1.3+ volts easy for vcore and temps would have gotten high.....

Anyway.....
post #159 of 9531
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I still can't believe it took up to 14 posts for me to post about the +0.05 offset or the fact that when you increase the multiplier the voltage would increase so you are no "longer finder the highest ratio per stock voltage".... rolleyes.gif

I mean, wth, I can understand the thread poster makes typos, but seriously, not one person here found that it was weird to jump up to 3.7 ghz or even 4.0ghz and have your motherboards start defaulting the voltage to 1.3++????

No wonder kids fry there computers overclocking: had some newb attempted 'OC'ing in this guide, say he went up to the 4.0ghz +, his board would have exceeded 1.3+ volts easy for vcore and temps would have gotten high.....

Anyway.....

I think everyone either assumed it was a typo (but didn't quite think it was) or they just thought +0.05 was normal.

I still have not seen this voltage per multiplier in action yet. As far as I can remember when I overclocked my chip, the offset worked by one set number.

As far as I can tell its impossible to fry your chip with Auto settings.

Another thing, 1.3v is not a lot with sandybridge. Most run around 1.4v and I myself run at 1.5v.

I also have disclaimers in the guide stating that the images do not reflect the settings. I have another disclaimer stating that you can go up to 1.5v and not fry your chip.

Please remember I am only human. All though rare, the guide is subject to typos and mistakes. Also note that this is in fact a guide. If you follow a guide blindly then you reap the consequences of not knowing what is going on.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 3/25/12 at 7:00pm
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So far im almost 4 hours in to prime 95 Small FFT. Im at 45 multi and a +0.015 offset w/ CPU-z voltages around 1.296-1.304. Hopefully it stays stable

It sounds pretty stable to me after 4 hours. If the temps don't get too high then you're ready to go.

Are you only changing the voltage at this point in your testing?
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