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post #1631 of 9460
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What's tyhe right amount of thermal paaste? a little pea? Man the cpu cooler is actually the hardest thing I've had to install lol. Just rreeinstalling it once scare m but now ... guess I have to do it again...

A little pea, or grain of rice should do the trick. =]

Hope it turns out better, Good luck
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FINALLY figured out my problem with the computer not coming out of sleep mode: the Gigabyte 7770 GHz Edition needed a freakin' BIOS update! My Norton 360 identified the BIOS update file as a virus, I had to circumvent that... Now that that's fixed, I was able to do a "green overclock" to 4.0 GHz with a 0.005 offset and 0.008 turbo, running Prime95 for over 24 hours. Pretty please for little work!
Also, I changed my memory from "Auto" to XMP Profile 1, and went from 666 to 800, like it's supposed to be.
Now, to try for a higher overclock with more voltage, I'm aiming for 4.5-4.6 GHz, but last I tried, temps got to 82 with an offset of 0.10 at 4.6, and Prime95 failed after 40 minutes. I'm not sure I want to press too close to 90 by going higher on the voltage on my 3570K... I tried to use a thin layer of TIM with my Hyper 212 Plus... Maybe I need to re-do it.
One issue... My fans. I changed them from full on to Auto, left the trigger temp at 50 degrees... but the fans always run at 1850-1909 for the CPU, and around 1080 for the System fan. I have a Z77 Pro3 board, with the latest BIOS. Any ideas what I'm missing? What speeds should I expect at idle and at load?

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Hey guys

Followed the OP the best I could

I have the ofset at -0.020
and turbo at +0.004

anything you guys see from the results that I should be worried about.

Thanks for any input.

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Okay I just noticed something (IDK if you guys already know this but I'm gonna share it anyway). So I ran PRIME95 error/crash/BSOD free for more than 24 hours with my OC of 4.7GHz @ 1.360v with undervolted PLL/VTT when I had to (due to BSODs). Even if I was successful with prime, whenever I game for about 30 mins-1 hour the game would crash. A game on full screen (Dishonored) would crash whenever I'd alt+tab and after every loading screen. I always thought it was my GPU overclock doing this so I set my GPU to default, and it still crashed.

After checking event logs, I noticed I was having a lot of WHEA warnings regarding core corrections or something, this is another thing I'm wondering about, is it normal to have these warnings in event viewer? Anyway, what I had to do was increase my voltage even further (which I didn't wanna do since 1.36v seemed like a pretty high overvolt in itself) until the crashing went away. Now I am sitting at 1.38v with my same OC of 4.7GHz.

Thing is I'm wondering if I should try increasing PLL or VTT voltage instead of my vcore since what I did in my overclock was undervolt PLL and VTT. The problem with trying this route is that since I found out I can't really rely on PRIME for stability anymore, I'd have to overclock then play till I crash and repeat process. This is a lot harder and takes a lot more time, especially if I have to repeat my overclock.

Right now I haven't crashed even when I rapidly alt+tab which was crashing Dishonored before. But I'm still having these "WHEA" warning in event viewer regarding core correction. Are the WHEA warning normal? And do you guys think the game crashes are caused by undervolted PLL/VTT rather than lack of vcore?

Any inputs are welcome, especially if you've experienced this before. Thanks. smile.gif
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Not sure one the PLL/VTT but if your video cards overclock wasnt stable you would get lock ups not system crashes.
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Not sure one the PLL/VTT but if your video cards overclock wasnt stable you would get lock ups not system crashes.

Nah, I set it to default and the crashes still happened. Reduced processor OC to 4.6 and everything was A-OK. I don't wanna go down to 4.6 for my OC though since I know 4.7GHz can happen since I can do PRIME 24 hours+ with no issues..Thinking if it's due to PLL/VTT voltage..I'm probably gonna leave it at 1.376v for now since that seems stable..Would like lower vcore though..Temps are at 85 while gaming, at 90's with prime.
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Yea im saying its not your video card cuz if your cpu was at stock and your gpu overclock wasnt stable you get lockups. When your GPU isnt stable you will get lockup and when your Video ram is overclocked to much you get artifacts. So its definitely something w/ the cpu
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Yea im saying its not your video card cuz if your cpu was at stock and your gpu overclock wasnt stable you get lockups. When your GPU isnt stable you will get lockup and when your Video ram is overclocked to much you get artifacts. So its definitely something w/ the cpu

Yeah sorry misread ur post. My GPU OC is another (quite disappointing) story. 1230/7000 is all she can muster. Well for now my games haven't crashed but do you think 1.376v is too much for a 4.7GHz OC on 3570K?
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Here's my current build
- i5 3570k (watercooled with a custom loop)
- Fatality Professional-M
- Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9W 16GB (4x4GB) sticks (the white ones certified DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24-2N at 1.35v)

I have followed the guide to the letter and managed to get some nice overclocks but am still having trouble to get it stable.

My settings:
- everything as the guide says
- CPU core voltage to offset mode
- C-states to offset mode
- CPU LLC level 2
- the only difference being DRAM voltage set to 1.35v

For example, at 4.7 GHz:
- vcore is 1.3511v (turbo offset is +0.070v)
- coretemp reports 70 80 77 79

However, I can only run P95 with a custom test for about 30~40 mins until one worker thread fails
If I try to game with such settings (Guild Wars 2), the game crashes after about 5 mins. The core temps never go past 60 degrees though.

I already tried adding more vcore (from 0.062 to 0.066 and finally, 0.070) but it didn't seem to make much of a difference so I was wondering if there was some other settings I could fiddle with, such as the CPU PLL.
However, my board doesn't allow undervolting the PLL. The only available settings are Auto, 1.8v, 1.85v, 1.9v 1.95v and none seem to make much of a difference either (I didn't try 1.95v though since max recommended voltage seems to be 1.89v)

I also checked my memory since other apps would crash randomly. After 6 hours of memtestx86, no errors, everything passed OK.

I noticed later that the DRAM speed was set to DDR3-1333, despite certified for 1600. If I load the XMP profile, it is set correctly to 1600 but P95 would fail after 10s.
If I set the values manually, I get the same results: P95 fails early on.
I tried adding more voltage to the memory, it seems to last longer around 1.4v but P95 would still fail after about 30~40 mins.

I should also mention that I got some BSODs out of all the tests I did, most were 0x101 and by adding more vcore, it went away.
However, I did get a 0x50 error code at some point and am not sure how much I should change the VTT to reflect this.

Anyone have any ideas ?
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Here's my current build
- i5 3570k (watercooled with a custom loop)
- Fatality Professional-M
- Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9W 16GB (4x4GB) sticks (the white ones certified DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24-2N at 1.35v)
I have followed the guide to the letter and managed to get some nice overclocks but am still having trouble to get it stable.
My settings:
- everything as the guide says
- CPU core voltage to offset mode
- C-states to offset mode
- CPU LLC level 2
- the only difference being DRAM voltage set to 1.35v
For example, at 4.7 GHz:
- vcore is 1.3511v (turbo offset is +0.070v)
- coretemp reports 70 80 77 79
However, I can only run P95 with a custom test for about 30~40 mins until one worker thread fails
If I try to game with such settings (Guild Wars 2), the game crashes after about 5 mins. The core temps never go past 60 degrees though.
I already tried adding more vcore (from 0.062 to 0.066 and finally, 0.070) but it didn't seem to make much of a difference so I was wondering if there was some other settings I could fiddle with, such as the CPU PLL.
However, my board doesn't allow undervolting the PLL. The only available settings are Auto, 1.8v, 1.85v, 1.9v 1.95v and none seem to make much of a difference either (I didn't try 1.95v though since max recommended voltage seems to be 1.89v)
I also checked my memory since other apps would crash randomly. After 6 hours of memtestx86, no errors, everything passed OK.
I noticed later that the DRAM speed was set to DDR3-1333, despite certified for 1600. If I load the XMP profile, it is set correctly to 1600 but P95 would fail after 10s.
If I set the values manually, I get the same results: P95 fails early on.
I tried adding more voltage to the memory, it seems to last longer around 1.4v but P95 would still fail after about 30~40 mins.
I should also mention that I got some BSODs out of all the tests I did, most were 0x101 and by adding more vcore, it went away.
However, I did get a 0x50 error code at some point and am not sure how much I should change the VTT to reflect this.
Anyone have any ideas ?

well oc'ing with 4 dimms is always harder than with 2 Dimms of ram - since the IMC needs to work harder - also, why aren't the rams@ 1.5? are yours specifically designed@ 1.35v???
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