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post #1691 of 9489
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Just keep increasing turbo vcore till no more core errors occur in prime. Good luck with 4.7 smile.gif

Wait.. am i raising the wrong voltage setting? I think i have been raising the cpu offset voltage and not the turbo voltage... I need to double check.

Yea.. I have been raising the offset voltage.. is that not the correct one?

and btw.. my motherboard cant find the usb storage device while in the bios to take screenshots.. maybe i need to format my thumb drives in fat32 or something..
These are my settings..


Edited by zamdam - 10/25/12 at 12:44am
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Ok no problem. So w/ that -0.065 offset you get 1.344v in CPU-z at full load?

I'm at -0.060 now and I am getting around that, I'm at 1.336 now under load.



Also I ran Prime95 last night and it failed. I guess increasing the RAM speed did make it more unstable frown.gif If I cant get it stable or have to lower my OC I may just revert back to my stock ram settings because my rig was stable before I set it to 2133.

@Beastrider Yes I have the latest BIOS


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Am I missing something?? Just 20 mins into stress testing I get these crazy temps. I'm thinking that it's my voltages why the temps are so high. I have them set at : Offset +0.005v, and Turbo Boost to +0.004v just like the guide instructed. Do I have to lower my volts? Help, this is my first time OC an Intel chip frown.gif
Edit: The pic is a bit small, sorry. The volts are 1.34, highest temp: 101c, and it's OC@4.4GHZ

Looks like an unlucky chip. If you're using a D-14 (which I'm assuming from one of your rigs), your temps should be hover around mid 80's. Try remount the cooler, and don't use too much thermal paste. You could try increase your multiplier up higher to make use of that high voltage, or lowering your offset to achieve less voltage. Every chip uses a different reference voltage for offset, and it seems yours is awfully high.
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Wait.. am i raising the wrong voltage setting? I think i have been raising the cpu offset voltage and not the turbo voltage... I need to double check.
Yea.. I have been raising the offset voltage.. is that not the correct one?
and btw.. my motherboard cant find the usb storage device while in the bios to take screenshots.. maybe i need to format my thumb drives in fat32 or something..
These are my settings..


Offset will also increase your Vcore and stability, but it's different from Turbo Voltage. Offset adjusts both the base voltage and load voltage, where as turbo just increases voltage at load. Adjust 'Additional Turbo Voltage' and see how you go.

And yes, you'll probably need to format your thumb drive in fat32.
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Very safe, I'd say, if "under load" is Prime95. I ran Prime95 for 24 hours at 4.0 GHz, 1.142v under load, max temp of 68. (But, this is also a 3570K, not quite the same as yours.) At 4.5GHz with an offset of 0.085, my vcore was 1.256 and my temps went up to 81 (I think that was 3 hrs. 45min). When I tried for 4.6 GHz, my temps went to 89, my vcore was... 1.3-something, I think I ran an offset of 0.105. I only ran that for a short while, 90 is about as high a temp as you want under testing, and I didn't want to leave it for hours unattended, in case it got over 90. I know, we have a few degrees of leeway... right? But, I would rather see if I can get the temps down before pushing it. Maybe I'll check my TIM application, it MAY be a bit too thick... or maybe I could try some better TIM than what Cooler Master provided. I also don't like adding that much offset voltage to an Ivy Bridge. But, I'm still learning...
Anyhow, you could push it further, but keep it below 90 degrees. You might be able to do 4.7GHz on a 3770 with good cooling, but you may have to settle for a bit lower if your case isn't good at cooling. Go slowly... I make a bet 4.4 is possible with your setup, maybe more, depending on how much heat you can dissipate.

So, last night, I removed my heat sink... the TIM appeared to be properly thin, not glopped over the side, but thick enough that you couldn't read the writing on the processor. I removed and re-applied the grease anyhow.
Also... I read at Legitreviews.com, testing the Z77 Pro3 (with an i7 3770k though) "Above we can see the settings that we had to change to bring our 3770K to 4.7GHz. We only needed to tweak three different settings. The CPU multiplier was increased to x47, the CPU voltage was increased by .07 in offset mode, and the CPU Load-Line Calibration was set to 0%. All of the other settings were left on auto during our overclocking session."

So, I set my Pro3 to CPU Load-Line Calibration 0%, instead of Auto, set it for 4.5GHz, and ran Prime95 with the custom settings. My temps rocketed to 95!! YIPES! I then checked my heat sink, which looks to be properly mounted, and then changed the LLC back to Auto and re-tested. This time, my temps only got as high as 80, which is within a degree of what I got before, also using the same 0.085 offset and 0.008 turbo. My VCORE under load seems a bit higher now, I'm not sure why that is. I think I only got about 20 min of testing in before I had to quit for the night.
Is there anybody else using the Pro3 and a 3570K? Do I have to reduce my offset when using LLC 0% instead of Auto? The Pro3 has somewhat different settings than the other boards I've seen here, and while the features are reduced compared to the more deluxe boards, it has the features I need, and should overclock as well (or nearly as well?) I have the latest bios (1.60, I think).

I think I might be able to get 4.6 out of this if I can keep the temps down. My system seems to run hot, and require a lot of offset (at 4.6 I needed 0.105 which is a lot for an Ivy bridge, IMHO). I get the feeling there's some setting I'm missing. The one thing I've never seen cleared up: should I be using mostly offset, like I am now, or mostly Turbo offset?
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Offset will also increase your Vcore and stability, but it's different from Turbo Voltage. Offset adjusts both the base voltage and load voltage, where as turbo just increases voltage at load. Adjust 'Additional Turbo Voltage' and see how you go.
And yes, you'll probably need to format your thumb drive in fat32.

Thanks man.. I'll give it a go..
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You really shouldn't be getting temps that high at those voltages. Have you checked if your heat sink is properly mounted? Make sure all fans are running at max settings as well. You should be getting 70s-80s on those voltages. Also, 1.34v seems high for a 4.4GHz overclock, are you doing this manually? If your offsets are as you say your voltages should still be at the 1.2xx mark I believe.
I re-mounted my heat sink but temps remained the same. Now I just lowered my offset voltages to - 0.065v and my temps are much better. 4.4GHZ OC with the highest temp of 82c. I'm still doing some testing.
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Wait.. am i raising the wrong voltage setting? I think i have been raising the cpu offset voltage and not the turbo voltage... I need to double check.
Yea.. I have been raising the offset voltage.. is that not the correct one?
and btw.. my motherboard cant find the usb storage device while in the bios to take screenshots.. maybe i need to format my thumb drives in fat32 or something..
These are my settings..



Since i am at 4.5 and my turbo voltage is at the .004 and the offset is at .030, does that mean i have a good chip since its prime and game stable with temps not going above 60c? I wouldnt mind trying for something higher, but i dont think it will yield that much more vs 4.5... like if i went to 4.8, i dont think that would give me that many more fps for the amount of heat it would be generating..
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I'm at -0.060 now and I am getting around that, I'm at 1.336 now under load.
Also I ran Prime95 last night and it failed. I guess increasing the RAM speed did make it more unstable frown.gif If I cant get it stable or have to lower my OC I may just revert back to my stock ram settings because my rig was stable before I set it to 2133.
@Beastrider Yes I have the latest BIOS

Well your looking good w/ 1.33 under load. You might have to up the to increase the VTT a little more for your current overclock to pass since you change the ram speed.

See if you can get your current overclock stable first w/ the -0.060 (try increase in VTT) before you change the offset again that way you only change one variable at a time.

How long did P95 last before failing?
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I re-mounted my heat sink but temps remained the same. Now I just lowered my offset voltages to - 0.065v and my temps are much better. 4.4GHZ OC with the highest temp of 82c. I'm still doing some testing.

What is your vcore in CPU-z at full load?
Whats your idle voltage in CPU-z?
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