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post #1731 of 9531
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What fans are you using on that H100 and what thermal paste did you use?

Stock paste and fans, read the stock ones are actually pretty good stuff. The fans are good if you don't mind the noise, they run at 2700RPM which is pretty high. And 110cfm or 100 I think. For paste I also read that using different paste would yield around 1-2 degrees but overall the stock paste is alright. I think 1.43v is just too high a voltage for Ivy. And the heat, not really a cold country I live in ya know.

You think different fans or paste would help? They say 1-2 degrees at most and that's far from enough..Maybe I can try a half push-pull but IDK..Seems like a lost cause to get to 4.8.
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Stock paste and fans, read the stock ones are actually pretty good stuff. The fans are good if you don't mind the noise, they run at 2700RPM which is pretty high. And 110cfm or 100 I think. For paste I also read that using different paste would yield around 1-2 degrees but overall the stock paste is alright. I think 1.43v is just too high a voltage for Ivy. And the heat, not really a cold country I live in ya know.
You think different fans or paste would help? They say 1-2 degrees at most and that's far from enough..Maybe I can try a half push-pull but IDK..Seems like a lost cause to get to 4.8.

CFM doesnt mean much unless the static pressure of the fan is high. The fans that come with the H100 were rated by Corsair as having 1.2 - 7.7mm/H20 static pressure, but most reports I've read is that is far from the truth like most ratings by these fan manufacturers. From what I've read best static pressure fans are 38mm in width and not 25mm. 120x38mm fans are what you want as they put out higher levels of static pressure than equivalent speed 25mm fans but can be cranked up to perform, in the case of some Delta and San Ace fans, over 30mmHg. After reading about this for months, I settled on my Gelid Solutions 120mm Gamer fans because that is what worked for my needs, and I liked the fact that I can just pull the blades off to clean it easier without uninstalling the entire unit itself.

Further, paste does matter. I personally use Tuniq TX-3 Extreme, but they have since come out with TX-4 Extreme, and from what I have read is much better than it's predecessor. Some reviews cite as much as a 4C temperature difference between that and other thermal pastes.

If you are like me, and are the type to want to sqeeze every last drop of performence out of your rig, than I say investing in either of those two items is a safe investment. Heck, that paste alone is worth it for $11 since you have plenty for future applications and it is considered the best paste on the market.
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CFM doesnt mean much unless the static pressure of the fan is high. The fans that come with the H100 were rated by Corsair as having 1.2 - 7.7mm/H20 static pressure, but most reports I've read is that is far from the truth like most ratings by these fan manufacturers. From what I've read best static pressure fans are 38mm in width and not 25mm. 120x38mm fans are what you want as they put out higher levels of static pressure than equivalent speed 25mm fans but can be cranked up to perform, in the case of some Delta and San Ace fans, over 30mmHg. After reading about this for months, I settled on my Gelid Solutions 120mm Gamer fans because that is what worked for my needs, and I liked the fact that I can just pull the blades off to clean it easier without uninstalling the entire unit itself.
Further, paste does matter. I personally use Tuniq TX-3 Extreme, but they have since come out with TX-4 Extreme, and from what I have read is much better than it's predecessor. Some reviews cite as much as a 4C temperature difference between that and other thermal pastes.
If you are like me, and are the type to want to sqeeze every last drop out of the performence in your rig, than I say investing in either of those two items is a safe investment. Heck that paste alone is worth it for $11 since you have plenty for future applications.

Great feedback, have some rep! Gonna try look for that paste you mentioned as well as those fans. IDK if they are available here but Ima give it a try. For now 4.7GHz sounds good. Thanks for the feedback. smile.gif
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Thanks for the rep thumb.gif

Keep us posted. If you do get that thermal paste I'd be very interested in seeing how much of a temperature drop you get.
    
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Here's the screens you asked for.


I've since lowered the Turbo Voltage to 0.004V and am having luck so far stress testing it. It didn't seem to affect the voltage too much though. I'm seeing it run at 1.312 more frequently, but it still spikes upwards of 1.336. I'll see how if fares for a little while. Before that I tried the 0.004V and raised the LLC to level 2. That gave too much of a boost though. I was seeing 1.366, which was quite a bit more than I was stable with before. Went back to LLC level 3 and I'm back where I was, maybe a little better.
I've been doing some more P95 testing and I'm still getting that sawtooth graph pattern. It seems like it's about a five minute interval between the high and low temps. Which that's the time setting that I used in the custom setting (per the op) for the stress test. Would there be any correlation to that? I'd just like to find out why there's a regular pattern to the swing in temps when there's a constant load on all the cores. I've also considered a poor thermal interface application, but that might be grasping.

Looks like you won the chip lottery! I need 1.37- 1.39 (cpuz reading during a custom blend + 10 gb ram) on my 2700 to be stable for 1 hour in prime. I see > 120 watts at the cpu package during the run.

The 5 min temperature cycle is definately linked to the FFT time you set in the custom blend.

Great chip/rig you got there!

Edit: you might want to turn off spreadspectrum, but whatever you're doin, it looks great. That is definately a 5GHz chip.
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I'm fairly new to the board and I've just been reading a few posts. I have an AsRock extreme4 z77 mobo. I've got my offset down to around -.050 with LLC at 5 and only speedstep on. It's weird because during gaming the cores are being used at max multiplier but generate less heat. Also the voltage is much more stable but higher. With speedstep and Enhanced c1e voltage is lower and jumps around more but multipliers drop. I also notice stutter with this setup.
I'm on a 4.2 oc with stock cooler but a haf 932 case. During gaming I'm around 40-mid 50s depending on the game. I've tested on prime95 for 30 minutes once and it was stable. Don't really see the need to torture my cpu since I just use this pc for gaming and web browsing. Anyways how are these levels? During load with only speedstep on my vcore is 1.136-1.144 with a max of 1.160. Is this safe for my cpu on stock fan?
Also if I put on enhanced c1e during gaming load vcore is jumpy but usually lower. Should I leave c1e on or off?

In my opinion 30min isnt stable even though the guide says to run it for 30 min. I would do an absolute min of 6hrs

You should have both Speedstep and C1e enabled, Disable C3 & C6, and C-state support can be on auto

As mentioned earlier you should invest in a good cpu heatsink and most run LLC between level 1 & 3. I run mine at level 3
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4.4 @ 1.315vcore sounds about right, how are temps? Sounds like a good overclock to me. smile.gif Also try and aim for 24 hours or more if you can since in my experience even a successful 24 hour PRIME run will still lead to programs crashing and you end up increasing vcore a tad more. That is if you want your system to be stable 24/7 under normal use. smile.gif

My temperatures are great. At max I'm hitting about 65C with a Hyper 212, and Arctic Silver 5.

I ran "The Prime Test" today. I saw it was great for about 40 mins, then I had to leave it for 6+ hours. When I got back, it had crashed with BSOD 0x9c, so I increased the voltage to 1.320. It's getting decently stable though, I had it run The Prime Test for a whole hour last night with 0 errors, crashes, or anything, and temps all around 65C. smile.gif So I'm definitely getting closer, I hope to run it for 6 hours at a time without crashing or BSOD.

EDIT: Holy f*cking *****!!! It started the Prime run at 7 AM and lasted until 3:45 PM, that's pretty good. Almost 9 hours. I think I can officially call this machine stable at 1.320 V @ 4.4GHz! Woohoo! My first ever overclock was successful!!!

*It's a gaming PC, not a folding one, so I think a 9 hours Prime pass is pretty good. wink.gif
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My temperatures are great. At max I'm hitting about 65C with a Hyper 212, and Arctic Silver 5.
I ran "The Prime Test" today. I saw it was great for about 40 mins, then I had to leave it for 6+ hours. When I got back, it had crashed with BSOD 0x9c, so I increased the voltage to 1.320. It's getting decently stable though, I had it run The Prime Test for a whole hour last night with 0 errors, crashes, or anything, and temps all around 65C. smile.gif So I'm definitely getting closer, I hope to run it for 6 hours at a time without crashing or BSOD.
EDIT: Holy f*cking *****!!! It started the Prime run at 7 AM and lasted until 3:45 PM, that's pretty good. Almost 9 hours. I think I can officially call this machine stable at 1.320 V @ 4.4GHz! Woohoo! My first ever overclock was successful!!!
*It's a gaming PC, not a folding one, so I think a 9 hours Prime pass is pretty good. wink.gif

Great! Now try gaming with those settings and see if any of your games will crash. Personally I'd use heavy DX9 games cause I believe they make more use of the processor than DX11 games. Mainly Dishonored and GW2, these are 2 of my games that kept crashing on me even though I was stable on PRIME for more than 24 hours. If that does happen, just keep increasing turbo core till the games no longer crash. For me it was from 1.36v-1.376v so not that far off.
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Great! Now try gaming with those settings and see if any of your games will crash. Personally I'd use heavy DX9 games cause I believe they make more use of the processor than DX11 games. Mainly Dishonored and GW2, these are 2 of my games that kept crashing on me even though I was stable on PRIME for more than 24 hours. If that does happen, just keep increasing turbo core till the games no longer crash. For me it was from 1.36v-1.376v so not that far off.
Problem is I don't have either of those two games, lol. I can try and find a DX9 test, or something like that. Maybe a benchmark test? That might work well. Any ideas of testers?
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Problem is I don't have either of those two games, lol. I can try and find a DX9 test, or something like that. Maybe a benchmark test? That might work well. Any ideas of testers?

How about GTA 4? It uses DirectX 9 if I remembered correctly. Max Payne 3 and Crysis has option to use DirectX 9 too.
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You think different fans or paste would help? They say 1-2 degrees at most and that's far from enough..Maybe I can try a half push-pull but IDK..Seems like a lost cause to get to 4.8.

Another thermal paste worth considering: Noctua NT-H1. Reduced my load temp by 4 C (previously I was using Xigmatek Gaia's stock thermal paste).
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