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post #1881 of 9601
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Originally Posted by kalsylum View Post


Finally 4.6 GHz Prime 12 hours stable with 1.312 v. I think it's my limit with this cooler, temperatures jump significantly from 4.5 Ghz (1.256 v). Do you guys think I can reach 4.7 GHz?

What is your room temperature?
post #1882 of 9601
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Originally Posted by zamdam View Post

Im having a weird issue with my setup..
Ive been running at 4.7 for the last week or so with no issues and the other day I flashed the newer 2.10 bios for my extreme6.
I have noticed that my cpu is staying at 4.7 instead of dropping to 1.6 when idling.. Speedstep and C1E is enabled and I am using offset voltages..
No Clue... I have also cleared my CMOS as well..

Did you load an OC profile created under the old BIOS? That can cause issues. If you did this try writing down all your settings, clearing CMOS, and entering them manually. If it works, overwrite the OC profile.

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Originally Posted by kalsylum View Post


Finally 4.6 GHz Prime 12 hours stable with 1.312 v. I think it's my limit with this cooler, temperatures jump significantly from 4.5 Ghz (1.256 v). Do you guys think I can reach 4.7 GHz?

A better cooler won't help much and you'll be paying about $100 per 100MHz gain. I dropped down to 4.5GHz b/c I was hitting 88°C at 4.6GHz. Delidding is the only way I'd push further for 24/7. IB actually produces very little heat; less than SB. The die/IHS interface just makes it to hard to get the heat out efficiently.

You won't notice the difference in everyday operation and your chip will be a lot happier. Just my opinion.

I've seen guys hitting 4.8GHz stable with less vcore than me and maxing at 80°C, but those are usually early chips. More recent ones seem to be doing worse.

I wish Intel was still releasing a 2nd stepping like they've done in the past. My E0 Q9550 was 4GHz stable at 1.256v and never got over 60°C.

It is fun to run some benchmarks at higher speeds, though. You don't need to be P95 stable to do that! wink.gif

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Originally Posted by snowcake1 View Post

Load-Line Calibration (LLC) settings are reversed. 0% means 100%
Hello,
I post it here because you guys seem to know a lot about LLC. Recently I buyed the Asrock H77M motherboard. There is something what confuses and worrying me.
if you read the op, you read this:
But it appears that in my UEFI this settting mean different things.
When I reset the bios of my motherboard to the standard settings, the LLC is set on auto. However, the auto setting set it at 100%!
I can see that because the actual setting can be seen in the middle. Between the name of the setting and the setting you can manually set, even if it is set on auto. Photo below this line to illustrate:

Testing time! (With Intel Burn Test)
The CPU voltages at 100% and auto were both: 1.128V at load and 1.152V at idle. So the auto setting is set at 100%.
The CPU voltage at 50% were: 1.144V at load and 1.160 at idle.
The CPU voltage at 0% were: 1.168V at load and 1.176V at idle.
This is bizarre. As far as I can find, the 0% setting should give less voltage than the 100% setting. However in my case it is the opposite, the 0% gives in my case the most voltage.
What do you guys think? What does this mean?
It actually worries my because I read about voltage spikes damaging your CPU if you using LLC.
Is this a faulty bios? Or is the explaining wrong at the Complete Overclocking Guide? Or Asrock changed it on purpose for some reason. They were also too ¨lazy¨ to put a explanation in the description of this setting in the uefi, nothing in the manual either. And the most stupid thing is: I can´t disable it!
Is it possible that the bios suddenly becomes ¨unstable¨ or ¨decide¨ to do things right and changes the settings to the normal meanings??? So that 100% means suddenly means more voltage. If so, I have a problem.
What do you guys think about this??

LLC isn't going to kill anything. That is 1 theoretical anandtech article that I have picked apart many times. There is 0 empirical evidence that LLC damages anything. People were doing vdroop mods before there was an LLC option and people (like myself) have been using the LLC option with great success for many years. My Q9550 has been running with LLC on since I bought it with no ill effects.

Just go with the flow. Put it at the setting that works the best. Experiment wink.gif

What matters is what the setting does, not what it says in the BIOS. What you see in the BIOS is just a label that someone typed in for that option. The end result is what's important.

And it's not suddenly going to switch on you or anything.
post #1883 of 9601
Does anyone know why my CPU isnt downclocking to 1.6ghz like it should be on idle?

2.10 bios for my extreme6.

Speedstep and C1E is enabled and I am using offset voltages..
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Did you load an OC profile created under the old BIOS? That can cause issues. If you did this try writing down all your settings, clearing CMOS, and entering them manually. If it works, overwrite the OC profile.
.

Didnt see this reply.. Thanks but i have cleared my cmos and started over.. from scratch.

Even if i leave the bios all stock except for changing the boot drive it stays at 3.6 and raises to 3.8 every now and then .. and thats set to stock.. no OC settings changed..
Edited by zamdam - 11/2/12 at 9:16pm
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post #1885 of 9601
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90C? I'd think about backing it down a bit. I'd be more comfortable if that was my CPU, for the max temps to be 75C.

I don't know how it spiked to 90, I wasn't monitoring the test but I know that most of the time during long session of stress testing, my temperatures hover around high 70 to low 80s C. However when I use it to play games it won't even reach 65 C and I believe game is what stresses my PC the most during my daily activity. So can I assume that I'm safe?
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Originally Posted by snowcake1 View Post

What is your room temperature?

I don't have a thermometer with me but my air conditioning unit thermostat is set to 26 C.
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Originally Posted by jason4207 View Post

A better cooler won't help much and you'll be paying about $100 per 100MHz gain. I dropped down to 4.5GHz b/c I was hitting 88°C at 4.6GHz. Delidding is the only way I'd push further for 24/7. IB actually produces very little heat; less than SB. The die/IHS interface just makes it to hard to get the heat out efficiently.
You won't notice the difference in everyday operation and your chip will be a lot happier. Just my opinion.

Then 4.6 GHz is where I stop. I don't think I will delid my less than 1 year old processor, it's too dangerous for me.
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post #1886 of 9601
Hey all,

need some help getting to 4.7 ghz on an i7 2600k

I've gotten the 124 BSOD which according to the guide:

0x124 = add/remove vcore or QPI/VTT voltage (usually Vcore, once it was QPI/VTT)

Though, I'm not sure what to change?

Attached are my screens:







cheers!
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post #1887 of 9601
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Load-Line Calibration (LLC) settings are reversed. 0% means 100%
Hello,
I post it here because you guys seem to know a lot about LLC. Recently I buyed the Asrock H77M motherboard. There is something what confuses and worrying me.
if you read the op, you read this:
But it appears that in my UEFI this settting mean different things.
When I reset the bios of my motherboard to the standard settings, the LLC is set on auto. However, the auto setting set it at 100%!
I can see that because the actual setting can be seen in the middle. Between the name of the setting and the setting you can manually set, even if it is set on auto. Photo below this line to illustrate:

Testing time! (With Intel Burn Test)
The CPU voltages at 100% and auto were both: 1.128V at load and 1.152V at idle. So the auto setting is set at 100%.
The CPU voltage at 50% were: 1.144V at load and 1.160 at idle.
The CPU voltage at 0% were: 1.168V at load and 1.176V at idle.
This is bizarre. As far as I can find, the 0% setting should give less voltage than the 100% setting. However in my case it is the opposite, the 0% gives in my case the most voltage.
What do you guys think? What does this mean?
It actually worries my because I read about voltage spikes damaging your CPU if you using LLC.
Is this a faulty bios? Or is the explaining wrong at the Complete Overclocking Guide? Or Asrock changed it on purpose for some reason. They were also too ¨lazy¨ to put a explanation in the description of this setting in the uefi, nothing in the manual either. And the most stupid thing is: I can´t disable it!
Is it possible that the bios suddenly becomes ¨unstable¨ or ¨decide¨ to do things right and changes the settings to the normal meanings??? So that 100% means suddenly means more voltage. If so, I have a problem.
What do you guys think about this??

I had the same experience! Setting LLC to 0% resulted in very high temps for me. I think what I'll have to do is to set it to 0% and then reduce my offset, and test again. I'm not sure if it will work better at 0% LLC and, say, .070 volts offset, or Auto LLC and 0.105 volts. (YMMV, I'm just throwing numbers out... Although I did try 4.6 at 1.05 volts, I didn't test it for very long, it got hot!)

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I had the same experience! Setting LLC to 0% resulted in very high temps for me. I think what I'll have to do is to set it to 0% and then reduce my offset, and test again. I'm not sure if it will work better at 0% LLC and, say, .070 volts offset, or Auto LLC and 0.105 volts. (YMMV, I'm just throwing numbers out... Although I did try 4.6 at 1.05 volts, I didn't test it for very long, it got hot!)
Dean

Your tested your 4.6cpu at 1.05V? Isn´t that a low voltage? Mine is at stock 1.128v-1.152. What is your cpu? Mine is a (temporary) Intel Pentium G860 @stock (3ghz)

@jason4207
Thanks for the answer!
post #1889 of 9601
Ok... I need to know what I need to make it "perfect" lol. Right now I'm able to run Prime95, while chatting and even play game, but After 4:30hours I get hardware failure. So I don't know much about where it can come from. Is it me disrupting the flow cuz I'm doing stuff while it's torturing with prime95 or is it a failure as it say?

Right now im at 4.6 @ 1.35V. Max temp over 4:30hours is 96*C. So I guess that's the sweetspot I need to stay, just need to keep it at this point with out failure.
post #1890 of 9601
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Originally Posted by Zaraky View Post

Ok... I need to know what I need to make it "perfect" lol. Right now I'm able to run Prime95, while chatting and even play game, but After 4:30hours I get hardware failure. So I don't know much about where it can come from. Is it me disrupting the flow cuz I'm doing stuff while it's torturing with prime95 or is it a failure as it say?
Right now im at 4.6 @ 1.35V. Max temp over 4:30hours is 96*C. So I guess that's the sweetspot I need to stay, just need to keep it at this point with out failure.

What fft size is p95 failing at?

What i like to do is find the fft size that is causing issues and then run a custom p95 run using only that size. Makes it much faster to isolate an issue and experiment with different settings.


Try lowering pll if you haven't already. It'll help with temps which may then lead to even lower vcore.

You should be able to do other things while running p95. Those cpu cycles get worked a lot harder by p95 than anything else, so doing other things actually lowers the load on the cpu.
Edited by jason4207 - 11/4/12 at 1:46am
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