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post #2071 of 9489
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Jump 23, Ya, I don't feel safe leaving it running while I am at work or sleeping. However, I wish I had that kind of time to sit around for 6 to 12 hours. lol *sigh*
Jpmboy, I would like to take it up a bit more, but I am still worried on the degradation of the CPU running it at 47x or maybe even 48x. Can anyone provide good reading materials on OCing the SBs to these multipliers and their stability?

As far as I know as long as you are not pumping out crazy voltages or heat your chip should be fine for many years. When I was doing my OC, some one who has been OC'ing for a very long time told me that with my volts and temps I should be good for around 10 years, but by then my mobo would probably blow before the chip does. I would not worry about degrading IMO, as long as you dont keep it on 24/7 while pushing crazy volts and temps, otherwise you should be ok. In all honesty, you wont see much gains from 4.6-4.8, maybe some in benchmarks but nothing really noticable in real world applications; this is mostly for e-peen.

Also, you can save different BIOS settings to suit your needs. Run it at 4.2 with a really low voltage for when your doing basic comptuer stuff like surfing the web, music, youtube, word applications and use your high end OC for games, folding, 3d rendering ect.
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As far as I know as long as you are not pumping out crazy voltages or heat your chip should be fine for many years. When I was doing my OC, some one who has been OC'ing for a very long time told me that with my volts and temps I should be good for around 10 years, but by then my mobo would probably blow before the chip does. I would not worry about degrading IMO, as long as you dont keep it on 24/7 while pushing crazy volts and temps, otherwise you should be ok. In all honesty, you wont see much gains from 4.6-4.8, maybe some in benchmarks but nothing really noticable in real world applications; this is mostly for e-peen.
Also, you can save different BIOS settings to suit your needs. Run it at 4.2 with a really low voltage for when your doing basic comptuer stuff like surfing the web, music, youtube, word applications and use your high end OC for games, folding, 3d rendering ect.

I do not fold or render videos or anything else CPU intensive 24/7. However, it just sits there idle for most of the time at around 1600 of the core speed and the vcore is low too as it is a 24/7 setup. What are these crazy voltage and temps you referring to? I do understand that 1.5v and up and 80c and up is where the failure and degradation happens. At which of these points would one start to see degradation of their CPU?

Only at 1.5v and 80c?
OR also at 1.45v and 70c?
OR even at 1.4v and 65c?

Knowing this, will allow me to have a better understanding of what kind of pressure I am putting on my CPU.
 
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I do not fold or render videos or anything else CPU intensive 24/7. However, it just sits there idle for most of the time at around 1600 of the core speed and the vcore is low too as it is a 24/7 setup. What are these crazy voltage and temps you referring to? I do understand that 1.5v and up and 80c and up is where the failure and degradation happens. At which of these points would one start to see degradation of their CPU?
Only at 1.5v and 80c?
OR also at 1.45v and 70c?
OR even at 1.4v and 65c?
Knowing this, will allow me to have a better understanding of what kind of pressure I am putting on my CPU.

1.5V+ is a deathwish , but 1.4V IMO is too much. You will get different answers as to what is safe and what is not, but from my research 1.3ish is the sweet spot which is attested by the fact that at my setup 4.7GHZ, 1.35V core, 49C during gaming, should last me around 10 years.

As for temps, again you will see different responses, I for one like to keep it under 70Cish, which did happen briefly for me during prime95, I know I will never see that during gaming (highest I saw during gaming was 49C).

As for degradation volts kill the CPU faster than temps. I would try to find a stable OC under 1.4 and under 70C if possible. Otherwise, anything higher than stock volts will start cutting into the lifespan of the CPU.
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Wasper - Set LLC to Level 2 or 3 NOT level 1
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I know I touched on this topic a few weeks ago but was thinking about it some more. My ram is currently running at 1866 and I want to run it at 2133 since that's what I paid for. However, with my OC as soon as I set the voltage and timings in BIOS the computer refuses to boot into windows. Currently, I have my timings at 9-11-10-28 with Dram voltage at 1.5x and was wondering what settings I can tweak so I can run it at 2133 @ 9-11-10-28?

Please post the JDECs from the memory tab in cpuz (or any other method for reading them). I take it 2133 is not an XMP the memory sticks show in Bios?
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1.5V+ is a deathwish , but 1.4V IMO is too much. You will get different answers as to what is safe and what is not, but from my research 1.3ish is the sweet spot which is attested by the fact that at my setup 4.7GHZ, 1.35V core, 49C during gaming, should last me around 10 years.
As for temps, again you will see different responses, I for one like to keep it under 70Cish, which did happen briefly for me during prime95, I know I will never see that during gaming (highest I saw during gaming was 49C).
As for degradation volts kill the CPU faster than temps. I would try to find a stable OC under 1.4 and under 70C if possible. Otherwise, anything higher than stock volts will start cutting into the lifespan of the CPU.

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" At which of these points would one start to see degradation of their CPU?

Only at 1.5v and 80c?
OR also at 1.45v and 70c?
OR even at 1.4v and 65c?"

It's the heat that kills (= current). Chips degrade at every setting, with a careful OC you work to mitigate this. Better do ALOT of reading before you push into the >1.45 volt range. NRY is spot on, you will not "feel" a difference between 46 and 48. In fact, for some unknown reason, my rig in the sig below just plain feels "snappier" at 46. than higher setting, including 50 which i ran for a few days at 1.45+/- 0.01v before i came to my senses! Can you really feel a difference of 10% for a CPU in real world use? Better to overclock your graphics cards.
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NotReadYet, thanks for the information. This does help a lot. I'll probably send another weekend overclocking, and seeing how much I can push my CPU and then revert back to my stable 4.5GHz. +rep!
 
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

Please post the JDECs from the memory tab in cpuz (or any other method for reading them). I take it 2133 is not an XMP the memory sticks show in Bios?

Will do that when I get home from work.

My BIOS does have a XMP setting for 2133 but it never worked, even when I was at stock CPU settings. When I revert back to stock speeds I can get the memory to run at 2133 by changing the DRAM voltage to 1.65, changing the timings to 9-11-10-28, and setting the speed to 2133. However, under my current OC, I have been unable to get it to post into windows. I even tried upping the VCCIO several notches to no avail.

Here is a link to the exact ram I am running:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226274

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugi View Post

NotReadYet, thanks for the information. This does help a lot. I'll probably send another weekend overclocking, and seeing how much I can push my CPU and then revert back to my stable 4.5GHz. +rep!

My pleasure, good luck to you.
    
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Muskin is very good ram. I'm sure you tried relaxing the timings a bit from the XMP and going to 2T? I tried to get 4x4GB sticks of GSkill to 2133 with no luck, but these are two 8gb kits, not a 16GB kit. - I've been thinkning of getting these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231619

... and sell the 4x4GB on ebay.

Although different architecture, I could never OC 4 sticks in my 775 system, but 2 sticks worked fine. I'm hoping the same will work for this ASRock E3G3 board. Heres's a RAM clock/CAS timimg calculator:

cas timings.xls 17k .xls file
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