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post #391 of 9601
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Originally Posted by Turtley View Post

Interestingt! I haven't tried going past 45 yet.
Have you ran memtest86 with your current settings?
I put new mem in my machine and ran memtest86 and it would lock up. I had to up the VCore voltage then I was able run memtest86 for 6+ hours without any problems. I followed that up with 9+ hours of prime blend.
Interesting that I thought I was stable at 45 but memtest86 proved me wrong.
Resetting BIOS will wipe out your saved settings. If you reset, just restore your saved settings from disk then go into BIOS to load your saved settings again.

Okay, thanks. I'll figure out how to save settings to a disk.

No, I did not run memtest, which is what I usually do first whenever OCing, but since the fsb remains at 100, it seems less of an issue. Perhaps that's an incorrect assumption on my part. I'll have some time to experiment this weekend.

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post #392 of 9601
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Oooohhhh!
I thought all CMOS values were cleared as the manual indicates once a reset is performed.
I did load my BIOS settings from disk after a reset since that was what I thought was correct. I didn't check CMOS to see if my saved profiles were still there first.
I do imagine that a BIOS update will clear the profiles then?
I appologise for giving out incorrect information.
I learn something new all the time.
Thanks for the correction!

I have not tried out a BIOS update for this motherboard, as it was shipped with the latest official BIOS, though with my experience with several AMD boards, all user profiles were deleted after a BIOS update. So it's safe to assume it will be the same for our motherboards.
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When you say disk do you mean floppy or cd lol?

User profiles are saved within the motherboard's own memory, you do not need a disk/floppy/usb. Clearing the CMOS won't delete these profiles either, but will reset all the settings in the BIOS back to default.
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Okay, thanks. I'll figure out how to save settings to a disk.
No, I did not run memtest, which is what I usually do first whenever OCing, but since the fsb remains at 100, it seems less of an issue. Perhaps that's an incorrect assumption on my part. I'll have some time to experiment this weekend.
marty

From my experience, memtest is only good for testing if RAM as perfect working sectors or not. If you want to test out an overclocked RAM's stability, Prime95 in blend is a better tool to use. I've had many events where my RAM overclock would last the whole day in memtest, but would fail fairly quickly in P95 blend.
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kokin i know which is why im confused as to what this DISK talk is lol?
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In my ASRock software guide it states that OC DNA is used to save your profile settings to share with friends.I don't know where else you could save the profile except to a disk be it floppy, SSD, HDD, thumb drive ect.

I had ran prime custom blend with 80% ram (6155 mbytes but on different ram) for 6+ hours without any issues. Perhalps I should have ran it longer.

I got new replacement ram which was RMA'd from my first set. I ran memtest86 on the new ram and it would lock up at only 21% throuh the first pass. My overclock was no longer stable with the new ram so I upped the VCore and ran prime blend for 9.5 hours without any issue.

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Maybe I should have ran prime longer as well but I figured after 9.5 hour it was stable.

My ram is not OC'd but running at stock settings.

Does memetest86 not stress the CPU?
My fans did speed up to full speed diring the test.
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kokin i know which is why im confused as to what this DISK talk is lol?

all the disk talk comes from backing up the saved settings profile in bios to a flash drive, or internal hdd. Great feature for those of us who play around with bios settings too much. thumb.gif
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In my ASRock software guide it states that OC DNA is used to save your profile settings to share with friends.I don't know where else you could save the profile except to a disk be it floppy, SSD, HDD, thumb drive ect.
I had ran prime custom blend with 80% ram (6155 mbytes but on different ram) for 6+ hours without any issues. Perhalps I should have ran it longer.
I got new replacement ram which was RMA'd from my first set. I ran memtest86 on the new ram and it would lock up at only 21% throuh the first pass. My overclock was no longer stable with the new ram so I upped the VCore and ran prime blend for 9.5 hours without any issue.
334
Maybe I should have ran prime longer as well but I figured after 9.5 hour it was stable.
My ram is not OC'd but running at stock settings.
Does memetest86 not stress the CPU?
My fans did speed up to full speed diring the test.

As far as i know it only stress the ram not the CPU. Are you still getting crashes or bsod's?

You can always try small FFT but watch your temps because they will probably be higher then blend
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Originally Posted by Turtley View Post

In my ASRock software guide it states that OC DNA is used to save your profile settings to share with friends.I don't know where else you could save the profile except to a disk be it floppy, SSD, HDD, thumb drive ect.
I had ran prime custom blend with 80% ram (6155 mbytes but on different ram) for 6+ hours without any issues. Perhalps I should have ran it longer.
I got new replacement ram which was RMA'd from my first set. I ran memtest86 on the new ram and it would lock up at only 21% throuh the first pass. My overclock was no longer stable with the new ram so I upped the VCore and ran prime blend for 9.5 hours without any issue.
334
Maybe I should have ran prime longer as well but I figured after 9.5 hour it was stable.
My ram is not OC'd but running at stock settings.
Does memetest86 not stress the CPU?
My fans did speed up to full speed diring the test.

As far as i know it only stress the ram not the CPU. Are you still getting crashes or bsod's?

You can always try small FFT but watch your temps because they will probably be higher then blend

Memtest is not a stress tester. It is an error catcher (or just plain test). It scans through every bit on in your memory to make sure that it gets no errors.

Prime Blend does stress the memory using it and the CPU both like work horses. IF the memory produces an error, you get an error in prime.

The reason people might not understand this is because memory rarely ever causes problems, because like you, most of the time they are left at stock. Why? Because the performance gain from a memory OC is very negligible and is prone to cause your way more important CPU OC to fail.
post #398 of 9601
Re, memtest: It's been very different with this z68 system vs. When OCing in the past, one typically bumped up the FSB, that would not only speed up the CPU, it bumped my memory speed as well and "overclocked it". Often memtest caught errors under these circumstances when overclocking,as sometimes the RAM was pushed past its spec. Really good memory gave you some leeway, plus you could bump your vdimm to assist the process. With the z68 chipset, the fsb stays put at 100, so when I set my memory, it is right at its designated speed. So in this instance, memtest is basically catching any manufacturing errors. I'm running my memory at full speed but at default settings, i.e., CAS et al. Under these circumstances, memory is kind of a non-player, secondary (but necessary) to overclocking.

Now you can certainly try to speed up memory by adjusting the various mem settings like CAS, and memtest will run red if those settings are too extreme. In my i7 Lynfield system, I hav 1600 Corsair Vengeance RAM that I run at 1640 without error yet running a fairly modest overclock of 3.6 on my cpu.

Final thought:: on this z68 system, which I really love, I think my favorite build ever, memory has been a non-player in terms of its effect on OC. So long as your ram is reputable, you then move on to focusing on the cpu. RAM seems to have become a bit player now..

marty

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post #399 of 9601
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As far as i know it only stress the ram not the CPU. Are you still getting crashes or bsod's?
You can always try small FFT but watch your temps because they will probably be higher then blend
From what I gather memtest86 does stress the CPU to a certain exent.

No I'm not getting any crashes or BSOD's on the new mem. I have used both small FFT and blend during my stability testing.



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Memtest is not a stress tester. It is an error catcher (or just plain test). It scans through every bit on in your memory to make sure that it gets no errors.
Prime Blend does stress the memory using it and the CPU both like work horses. IF the memory produces an error, you get an error in prime.
The reason people might not understand this is because memory rarely ever causes problems, because like you, most of the time they are left at stock. Why? Because the performance gain from a memory OC is very negligible and is prone to cause your way more important CPU OC to fail.
I know memtest86 is not a CPU stress test program but the CPU is stressed somewhat as it's running the memtest86 program. From what I view in my mind is memtest86 is probably a 8 bit program (not sure though) which runs as fast as it can to test the memory but only uses one core/thread and thus uses that core/thread 100% of the time. When I ran memtest86 my PWM fans went to full speed of 2000+ rpm and maintained that speed throughout the test.

Here's a quote from the author of memtest86 program:
Please be aware that not all errors reported by Memtest86 are due to bad memory. The test implicitly tests the CPU, L1 and L2 caches as well as the motherboard. It is impossible for the test to determine what causes the failure to occur. However, most failures will be due to a problem with memory module. When it is not, the only option is to replace parts until the failure is corrected.


Yea, I didn't see any point of OC'ing the memory. Interesting thing is that when I use the XMP 1.2 profile in BIOS the CAS goes to 11-11-11-28 for my GSkill 1600 sniper ram. On auto it goes to 9-9-9-24 1N so I put the values in manually as 9-9-9-24-2N as indicated from the sticker on the ram.




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Re, memtest: It's been very different with this z68 system vs. When OCing in the past, one typically bumped up the FSB, that would not only speed up the CPU, it bumped my memory speed as well and "overclocked it". Often memtest caught errors under these circumstances when overclocking,as sometimes the RAM was pushed past its spec. Really good memory gave you some leeway, plus you could bump your vdimm to assist the process. With the z68 chipset, the fsb stays put at 100, so when I set my memory, it is right at its designated speed. So in this instance, memtest is basically catching any manufacturing errors. I'm running my memory at full speed but at default settings, i.e., CAS et al. Under these circumstances, memory is kind of a non-player, secondary (but necessary) to overclocking.
Now you can certainly try to speed up memory by adjusting the various mem settings like CAS, and memtest will run red if those settings are too extreme. In my i7 Lynfield system, I hav 1600 Corsair Vengeance RAM that I run at 1640 without error yet running a fairly modest overclock of 3.6 on my cpu.
Final thought:: on this z68 system, which I really love, I think my favorite build ever, memory has been a non-player in terms of its effect on OC. So long as your ram is reputable, you then move on to focusing on the cpu. RAM seems to have become a bit player now..
marty
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I never did any overclocking back in the day but did check to make sure my FSB was running at it's full rated speed.
Yea, this is a great motherboard.
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Well I have set my CPU LLC to level 3, set my offset to +0.005v, tried to go for a 4.6 Ghz overclock with my 2500k. I did a blend test and here are my results so far:

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