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post #4791 of 9476
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Ok that's a little better, that CPU can probably run in the 0.960v-1.000v range no problem. I would try taking it down to at least 1.000v at idle but its up to you.

Ok, this is getting weird . . . As I'm dropping my voltages (idle and under load), my system is getting more stable as with obvious temperature drops too.

Am currently running the same Custom Blend as previously mentioned only difference is the time intervals are 2min instead of 5min

Vcore voltages as reported by HWM:

Idle: 1.056 @ 28c

loaded: 1.288-1.296 @ max core temp of 91c so far . . .

Looks like I'll keep pushing it downward instead of upward O_O First time overclocking and this is what I'm hit with, so THANK YOU Lucky 23 for suggesting to drop my Idle voltage. Going to see how far down this rabbit hole I can go.

P.S.

I haven't thrown a single WHEA error *knock on wood*
Edited by SilentAD - 3/18/13 at 11:40pm
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I hope I'm not going to pop your bubble too hard, but if you require 1.300 + to get 45, you don't have much headroom to go higher. The "good" chips will do 4.8 with 1.3V and the "golden" chips will do 5.0 with 1.3V. Taking the top off will help your load temps for sure, but I honestly would not suggest much higher of a VCore for 24/7. You have the same board/chip combo that I do, and the unreported voltage from the ext4 pushes you into the 1.350-1.400 range right now, depending on your LLC. If you are going to push it anyway, get a DMM with a 1mV resolution. Mild overclocking on the ASRock Z77 ext4 and ext6, but high clocking really requires a DMM.

I'm curious, are those generally the voltages reported by their MBs? or are they DMM readings? Or is it just the asrock ex4 (or asrock in general for that matter) that has issues with reporting lower than actual voltages?

As mentioned in my previous post, I've actually begun to lower my voltages and getting more and more stable at 45

Currently at 1.024 idle, 1.256-1.272 loaded. So if there was quite a difference in reported vcores to actual, then if my chip actually likes lower voltages, then I'm FINE with that thumbsupsmiley.png
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I hope I'm not going to pop your bubble too hard, but if you require 1.300 + to get 45, you don't have much headroom to go higher. The "good" chips will do 4.8 with 1.3V and the "golden" chips will do 5.0 with 1.3V. Taking the top off will help your load temps for sure, but I honestly would not suggest much higher of a VCore for 24/7. You have the same board/chip combo that I do, and the unreported voltage from the ext4 pushes you into the 1.350-1.400 range right now, depending on your LLC. If you are going to push it anyway, get a DMM with a 1mV resolution. Mild overclocking on the ASRock Z77 ext4 and ext6, but high clocking really requires a DMM.

I'm curious, are those generally the voltages reported by their MBs? or are they DMM readings? Or is it just the asrock ex4 (or asrock in general for that matter) that has issues with reporting lower than actual voltages?

As mentioned in my previous post, I've actually begun to lower my voltages and getting more and more stable at 45

Currently at 1.024 idle, 1.256-1.272 loaded. So if there was quite a difference in reported vcores to actual, then if my chip actually likes lower voltages, then I'm FINE with that thumbsupsmiley.png

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Ok that's a little better, that CPU can probably run in the 0.960v-1.000v range no problem. I would try taking it down to at least 1.000v at idle but its up to you.

Ok, this is getting weird . . . As I'm dropping my voltages (idle and under load), my system is getting more stable as with obvious temperature drops too.

Am currently running the same Custom Blend as previously mentioned only difference is the time intervals are 2min instead of 5min

Vcore voltages as reported by HWM:

Idle: 1.056 @ 28c

loaded: 1.288-1.296 @ max core temp of 91c so far . . .

Looks like I'll keep pushing it downward instead of upward O_O First time overclocking and this is what I'm hit with, so THANK YOU Lucky 23 for suggesting to drop my Idle voltage. Going to see how far down this rabbit hole I can go.

P.S.

I haven't thrown a single WHEA error *knock on wood*

This is why you can nevver hop in and use someone elses settings, you need to start from step one, finding the minimum voltage at stock speed, and only increasing voltage it when you need it.
post #4794 of 9476
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This is why you can nevver hop in and use someone elses settings, you need to start from step one, finding the minimum voltage at stock speed, and only increasing voltage it when you need it.

I simply started with the guide, it never mentioned finding lowest voltages first >_< It was only concerned with starting off at +0.005 offset and +0.004 turbo, but I've finally started throwing a few WHEA errors (Event ID 20, should be vcore voltages) with no concerns in p95, so I'll bump turbo up while lowering idle still.

But hey, first time really overclocking and I've already learned a lot. So I'm pretty satisfied smile.gif
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The guide kind of starts you off at a point above stock. Not a good idea as you wont know HOW your stuff works to begin with.

I keep having to edit everything. Make sure you catch that.

Edit: Not really above stock, but your stock voltage is above what it takes to run most chips to start with.
Edited by Xinoxide - 3/19/13 at 12:38am
post #4796 of 9476
Gotcha, lesson learned. Well, after passing a quick 10min run at my current settings w/o the WHEA I got during 8k Test 2, I'm going to set her up to run while I sleep and see the results in the morning.

Offset (-0.100), Turbo (+0.070)

Idle: 1.032 at its lowest
Loaded: 1.280-1.296

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post #4797 of 9476
It takes a lot of tinkering for stability. Its not so time consuming when you just want to run something and have it finish for a score.
post #4798 of 9476
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This is why you can nevver hop in and use someone elses settings, you need to start from step one, finding the minimum voltage at stock speed, and only increasing voltage it when you need it.

exactly. always work with your cpu - adjust+test+adjust... just like Thomas Edison!

another way to go about this might be to set 5/4mV and keep increasing multiplier until it posts but can't boot? That's pretty much what the guide advises.
anyway - I hope asrock issues a bios fix and this is not an issue for the 1150 boards w/ haswell.
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Your board sadly has a vcore reporting issue that is well known, Its sad because ASRock have been doing SO GREAT ( like with my OC formula ). but sadly its a hindrance.

I estimate your cpu voltage might be more up around the 1.38v mark.

As long as tour temperatures are in check you should be fine with turning up turbo voltage until stable. However I would add a slight amount of offset ( in my case +0.050 for 1.000v Idle and to alleviate some WHEA errors when doing normal stuff as a start. )

Then if the board has a cpu voltage reporting issue how will I know which is the real one and also what would be the limit?1.50?
During the prime tests I didn't get any WHEA errors whatsoever(only got some problems such as windows explorer crashing, programs crashing/not running at 4.6, does that mean I have to increase the offset voltage?), if I'd get any WHEA error's they would show up in prime tests, or?Another question, adding or decrease offset voltage decreases core voltage(vcore) and get less errors?
I would be satisfied with an overclock at 4.6 and comfortable temps, what should my turbo boost voltage, offset voltage and core voltage(vcore) estimates be around like?

EDIT: I am gonna let it like this, with this many vcore reading problems I've been reading not gonna try for going higher, will 4.4 with offset of +0.005v and turbo voltage of +0.004v run fine with the current vcore(since in prime test is always a bit higher)?
Edited by Zotac313 - 3/19/13 at 7:26am
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Gotcha, lesson learned. Well, after passing a quick 10min run at my current settings w/o the WHEA I got during 8k Test 2, I'm going to set her up to run while I sleep and see the results in the morning.

Offset (-0.100), Turbo (+0.070)
Idle: 1.032 at its lowest
Loaded: 1.280-1.296
Here goes nothin.

Just for clarity... With a 100mV negative offset your 16x idle vcore is 1.032V by cpuZ??

Also, if you are testing as you posted earlier, 2 min per FFT is too little time to process the full extent of the FFT and as threads become unsynchronized... Well p95 is mixing too many FFT sizes and never really stressing the various cpu components fully. The different FFT sizes use different amounts of cache and ram... And when all cores/threads (=workers) become greatly out of sync, the stress test is flawed. It still applies a good load, but not simultaneous hits to the cpu architechture. Just an FYI.
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