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I feel like speedfan is dying fast as most motherboard manufacturers include in depth fan adjusting software or bios setting with fan curves and everything.
 
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You want to know why it's a lose lost situation if I would even go at this?

1. If I bought a multimeter that wasn't the highest end one out there I would forever be told that it the meter itself is not accurate enough.
2. I do not have the time to tear apart my computer and test over and over and over to make sure all the results are validated.
3. I will end up getting flamed either way from any side being told I did something wrong even if I didn't

And finally it should not be my responsibility to prove that it isn't. The responsibility should fall in the hands of the person who is making the claims. Not the other way around, otherwise I could just say something crazy and then say its not my responsibly to prove I am wrong.

I have no intentions of flamming, AT ALL. Most DMMs have a resolution of .001V or 1mV, even if it has a .010V or 10mV resolution it would still tell us some pretty usefull information. We are looking for a margin or error in the .050-.100 range, so unless you really did buy a crapper DMM it should be fine..Mine was like 20 bucks at home depot a couple weeks ago, it was the cheapest digital one they had and even it has a 1mV resolution. I am not asking for you to pull it out and put it back in a bunch of times...Just once...somewhere in the high to very high voltage (1.35-1.4) range with LLC3, 2, or 1 for a few minutes to get a single read out. Then we can put the issue to rest and either add your board to the known ones with issues or scratch it off the list, and move onto another ASRock board for testing. Unfortunatley I do not know your board well enough to determine the readout points, mine were pretty easy to find with all the documentation on the ext4 on the net, your board is a little harder to track down, and I am not qualified to guess just by looking at the picture. I hope you do test, because you would do all of your guys over at the owners club a great service, and I certainly would commend you for your efforts. Until this issue has been resolved, I cannot change the advice I give to people trying to obtain high clocks on an ASRock boards with offset. I will continue to warn about software misreporting voltages, and continue to suggest a DMM.
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CPU-Z doesn't read VID. IF he OC'd on the ASRock, and found 1.208 was stable, but in reality it's supplying more, and then goes and tries 1.208v on the MSI, and it's 100% stable, showing the SAME vcore under load, that implies the ASRock is supplying the same vcore as the MSI. Think about it.

This is what I found on my extreme6. I put my excel sheet into paint otherwise the boxes get distorted. But I posted this a few months ago now I feel. You may not have a problem I think if you can match your vcore on a good board you are fine. Good to hear someones asrock board might work correctly.

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Kind of OT but has anyone here had to deal with asrock rma? rolleyessmileyanim.gif
 
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I have no intentions of flamming, AT ALL. Most DMMs have a resolution of .001V or 1mV, even if it has a .010V or 10mV resolution it would still tell us some pretty usefull information. We are looking for a margin or error in the .050-.100 range, so unless you really did buy a crapper DMM it should be fine..Mine was like 20 bucks at home depot a couple weeks ago, it was the cheapest digital one they had and even it has a 1mV resolution. I am not asking for you to pull it out and put it back in a bunch of times...Just once...somewhere in the high to very high voltage (1.35-1.4) range with LLC3, 2, or 1 for a few minutes to get a single read out. Then we can put the issue to rest and either add your board to the known ones with issues or scratch it off the list, and move onto another ASRock board for testing. Unfortunatley I do not know your board well enough to determine the readout points, mine were pretty easy to find with all the documentation on the ext4 on the net, your board is a little harder to track down, and I am not qualified to guess just by looking at the picture. I hope you do test, because you would do all of your guys over at the owners club a great service, and I certainly would commend you for your efforts. Until this issue has been resolved, I cannot change the advice I give to people trying to obtain high clocks on an ASRock boards with offset. I will continue to warn about software misreporting voltages, and continue to suggest a DMM
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I cannot guarantee I will be able to do it anytime soon or at all, but I might ask some of the club members if they have a DMM because they would be able to do it in a more timely fashion. I am stuck in a standoff with asrock over a second rma on the motherboard worriedsmiley.gif
 
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This is what I found on my extreme6. I put my excel sheet into paint otherwise the boxes get distorted. But I posted this a few months ago now I feel. You may not have a problem I think if you can match your vcore on a good board you are fine. Good to hear someones asrock board might work correctly.

Do you recall what LLC that was tested at? I have found LLC to also have a huge impact on the reporting. I even managed to find CPU-Z to report OVER what the DMM reads by using LLC5 up to about 1.200. the overvoltage seems to scale up with increased offset/turbo and where ever you jump in on the LLC determines how far up (or down) it will scale.
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I cannot guarantee I will be able to do it anytime soon or at all, but I might ask some of the club members if they have a DMM because they would be able to do it in a more timely fashion. I am stuck in a standoff with asrock over a second rma on the motherboard worriedsmiley.gif

That would be cool, ask around maybe one of the guys can save you the time. I have also put in a request with the ASUS guys a couple days ago, but nobody seems to be as interested in this phenomena as I am.

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I am stuck in a standoff with asrock over a second rma on the motherboard worriedsmiley.gif

Good luck with that RMA! I hate dealing with that crap.
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This is what I found on my extreme6. I put my excel sheet into paint otherwise the boxes get distorted. But I posted this a few months ago now I feel. You may not have a problem I think if you can match your vcore on a good board you are fine. Good to hear someones asrock board might work correctly.


How are you testing bios voltage ? Do you just disable speedstep ? When I do that it shows 1.256-1.280vcore in bios and HW monitor shows 1.336 down to 1.000 vcore.

I use an offset of -.50 and turbo +.98, also use LLC 3.
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How are you testing bios voltage ? Do you just disable speedstep ? When I do that it shows 1.256-1.280vcore in bios and HW monitor shows 1.336 down to 1.000 vcore.

I use an offset of -.50 and turbo +.98, also use LLC 3.

Here is where I originally posted it. http://www.overclock.net/t/1333812/asrock-z77-extreme4-z77-extreme6-review/20

post #24

It is LLC#2 used throughout

The voltage was manually set in Bios (except for the last row which happens to be my 4.9 daily overclock on offset). Then CPU-z was opened and compared to the DMM reading. This was done with P95 running small fft's. The point was to increase the bios setting in steps of 0.05 from 1.1 to 1.5 and measure with a DMM.
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I feel like speedfan is dying fast as most motherboard manufacturers include in depth fan adjusting software or bios setting with fan curves and everything.

I'm using the motherboard's right now, but it is no where near as comprehensive as SpeedFan. My issues I think have to do a lot with Win8 not allowing it to start automatically at start up. For some reason in Win7 it took like 4 secs after starting to be fully on, in Win8 it's super delayed, like 2-3 minutes.

So I think that's what was causing my issues.... but yea... you can set temp averages per sets of cores or GPU 1 or 2 temps to speed up fans only near the GPU... I think it's super useful, but it needs to get an update for newer OS's.
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