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post #4961 of 9531
Well I've submitted my request for a gold medal.

24 hours of the custom prime95 test with 0 errors, warnings or WHEA's. (I show my Event Viewer with WHEA's from the 24th March - These are redundant)

Very happy biggrin.gif - http://i.imgur.com/UOGNTAg.jpg

*Edit* This one shows the clock at 4.6 - http://i.imgur.com/q4yJTO3.png


My settings:

Multiplier: 46
FSB: 100
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Intel Speed Step Technology: Enabled
Intel Turbo Boost Technology: Enabled
Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Disabled
Long Duration Power Limit: 500
Long Duration Maintained: Auto
Short Duration Power Limit: 500
Primary Plane Current Limit: 500
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CPU Core Voltage: Offset
Offset Voltage: +0.085
CPU Load-Line Calibration: Level 3
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C1E: Enabled
CPU C3: Disabled
CPU C6: Disabled
Package C State: Disabled
Edited by -Nick - 3/26/13 at 3:00pm
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I really need to stop reading posts like this...I should just be content to be at 4.8 under 1.300V.

yes! you should be... but alias, the drive to OC further is irresistible! (especially with that chip!)

I will say that his 1.384 is bios. cpuz at load is 1.36x LLC3. not a great 3770K which I set to a little extra juice to ensure stability. whistle.gif
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Ok guys so I made some changes.

Still running at 4.5, but I changed my CPU PLL Voltage to 1.75v. I also changed my LLC to level 3 instead of 2.

Now after an hour of P95, my temps have decreased about 4C from when I had my PLL Voltage on auto. But the the main difference I saw was my core voltage. Instead of the normal 1.2 I saw with LLC 3, I am now seeing 1.184v. What does this mean? Did I have more Vdroop with LLC 3?
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yes! you should be... but alias, the drive to OC further is irresistible! (especially with that chip!)

I will say that his 1.384 is bios. cpuz at load is 1.36x LLC3. not a great 3770K which I set to a little extra juice to ensure stability. whistle.gif

My biggest concern is temperature! My system doesn't but barely scratch 50C under a full load while running games...and not more than an hour at a time. Why on earth would I almost double the temperature for a full 24 hours? Just to say I can? Yes, probably....

I can boot 5.2 on less than 1.5....wonder what it would take to get it stable.

Edit to add: I have the worst cooling solution of anybody I have seen on this website, so temps really are the only concern...check out my "Engineered solution" to too little air across the heatsink:


Edited by inedenimadam - 3/26/13 at 3:56pm
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Ok guys so I made some changes.

Still running at 4.5, but I changed my CPU PLL Voltage to 1.75v. I also changed my LLC to level 3 instead of 2.

Now after an hour of P95, my temps have decreased about 4C from when I had my PLL Voltage on auto. But the the main difference I saw was my core voltage. Instead of the normal 1.2 I saw with LLC 3, I am now seeing 1.184v. What does this mean? Did I have more Vdroop with LLC 3?
yes, more V droop at LLC3 than LLC2. LLC1 should just about eliminate Vdroop completely, just be careful on the ext4, the VCore as reported in software is amazingly unreliable, and the rate of error scales with V droop compensation.
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yes, more V droop at LLC3 than LLC2. LLC1 should just about eliminate Vdroop completely, just be careful on the ext4, the VCore as reported in software is amazingly unreliable, and the rate of error scales with V droop compensation.
Thanks.

Would you recommend me just staying at LLC 2 or 3?

Worker #2 stopped. Going back to LLC 3 to see if I continue to fail.
Edited by ZeVo - 3/26/13 at 4:01pm
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Thanks.

Would you recommend me just staying at LLC 2 or 3?
Depends...but if you are not pushing it too hard, there should be no problems with LLC3. For my chip @4.5, I use LLC4 because anything more robust gives me too much voltage since we cant go negative with turbo, and too much negative base offset makes idle unstable. Vdroop was an intentionally designed into the chip to combat voltage spikes, and in general is a good thing, so completely defeating it (LLC1) in BIOS is not suggested unless you are going for that big clock and are having trouble getting it stable.
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Depends...but if you are not pushing it too hard, there should be no problems with LLC3. For my chip @4.5, I use LLC4 because anything more robust gives me too much voltage since we cant go negative with turbo, and too much negative base offset makes idle unstable. Vdroop was an intentionally designed into the chip to combat voltage spikes, and in general is a good thing, so completely defeating it (LLC1) in BIOS is not suggested unless you are going for that big clock and are having trouble getting it stable.
Thanks for the explanation. Still don't understand why it would crash at LLC 3 and not 2?

Anyway here are my tests for one hour so far:



About 2C higher than when I posted my last results two months ago.. probably because I got a 670 and is dumping hot air into the case.
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Thanks for the explanation. Still don't understand why it would crash at LLC 3 and not 2?
Anyway here are my tests for one hour so far:
About 2C higher than when I posted my last results two months ago.. probably because I got a 670 and is dumping hot air into the case.

With LLC set at 3, you allow more droop resulting in a lowering of vcore under load conditions as compared to LLC2. When i get home later, I'll post a bios pic with the LLC compensation graph from my (old) bios. Just remember that LLC compensation defeats vdroop, so on your board, a lower LLC # decreases vdroop more than the higher number ( which is actually a LOWER compensation). Soooo LLC 1 essentially turns vdroop off.

Although a bit dated, the concept of droop is explained here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/5
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