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post #4971 of 9531
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With LLC set at 3, you allow more droop resulting in a lowering of vcore under load conditions as compared to LLC2. When i get home later, I'll post a bios pic with the LLC compensation graph from my (old) bios. Just remember that LLC compensation defeats vdroop, so on your board, a lower LLC # decreases vdroop more than the higher number ( which is actually a LOWER compensation). Soooo LLC 1 essentially turns vdroop off.

Although a bit dated, the concept of droop is explained here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/5
Now I understand. Thank you for explaining it!
post #4972 of 9531
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My biggest concern is temperature! My system doesn't but barely scratch 50C under a full load while running games...and not more than an hour at a time. Why on earth would I almost double the temperature for a full 24 hours? Just to say I can? Yes, probably....

I can boot 5.2 on less than 1.5....wonder what it would take to get it stable.

Edit to add: I have the worst cooling solution of anybody I have seen on this website, so temps really are the only concern...check out my "Engineered solution" to too little air across the heatsink:

At least you didnt use duct tape! Check this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6830/cpu-air-cooler-roundup-six-coolers-from-noctua-silverstone-and-cooler-master/4
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Now I understand. Thank you for explaining it!
Just out of curiosity, what are your offset and turbo?
I would rather have less compensation and more offset/turbo because of the way the ext4 fails to report accurate voltage, and to allow Vdroop to exist as intel intended. But really, we are talking about 1.2V +/- at 4.5 right? That is nowhere near needing to worry about killing your chip with voltage spikes or overcompensation through LLC.
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post #4974 of 9531
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Just out of curiosity, what are your offset and turbo?
I would rather have less compensation and more offset/turbo because of the way the ext4 fails to report accurate voltage, and to allow Vdroop to exist as intel intended. But really, we are talking about 1.2V +/- at 4.5 right? That is nowhere near needing to worry about killing your chip with voltage spikes or overcompensation through LLC.
My offset is +0.005v and turbo is at +0.004v. I don't suppose ASRock is planning on releasing any BIOS updates to fix the inaccurate readings?
post #4975 of 9531
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My offset is +0.005v and turbo is at +0.004v. I don't suppose ASRock is planning on releasing any BIOS updates to fix the inaccurate readings?

I think your chip would do 46 very easily and w/o crazy vcore. Leave all settings as they are, change multi to 46 and add 40mV to Turbo. Or increase 10mV turbo at a time, post, run superPi mod 1M with the whea alert, if you get an error, add 10, retest... generally from where you are each 100MHZ costs ~ 40mV.
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I got a question: if I increase bclk 1 or 2 (102) this will increase the pci bus... is that an additional "OC" for the graphics cards?
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I think your chip would do 46 very easily and w/o crazy vcore. Leaver all settings as they are, change multi to 46 and add 40mV to Turbo. Or increase 10mV turbo at a time, post, run superPi mod 1M with the whea alert, if you get an error, add 10, retest... generally from where you are each 100MHZ costs ~ 40mV.
I had this thing stable at 4.8 a while ago when they first came out, but I really had no idea what I was doing then. I will try it out now!

Edit: Sometimes I make small mistakes when overclocking, but this time I really do feel dumb. HOW did I forget to change turbo to +0.004v instead of AUTO. I am running P95 now at +0.004v turbo and +0.005v offset and see if I get any errors. I will then run SuperPI.
Edited by ZeVo - 3/26/13 at 7:33pm
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I got a question: if I increase bclk 1 or 2 (102) this will increase the pci bus... is that an additional "OC" for the graphics cards?

Yes (if you mean discrete GPU... no).

It will affect CPU, iGPU, and Memory. Although, not by much.

I think the max I was able to go was 104 or something.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 3/26/13 at 7:35pm
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yes, more V droop at LLC3 than LLC2. LLC1 should just about eliminate Vdroop completely, just be careful on the ext4, the VCore as reported in software is amazingly unreliable, and the rate of error scales with V droop compensation.
Thanks.

Would you recommend me just staying at LLC 2 or 3?

Worker #2 stopped. Going back to LLC 3 to see if I continue to fail.

You have the extreme z77 4.

You should use LLC 3 at all times. Otherwise the voltage reported by the BIOS will not be correct by a large margin, which can lead to overvolting the CPU and harming it.

The user Sin did voltage meter testings and found 3 to be the only one reporting decent / accurate results.
This is only for that specific board though.
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Yes (if you mean discrete GPU... no).
It will affect CPU, iGPU, and Memory. Although, not by much.
I think the max I was able to go was 104 or something.

thanks - I was thinking that upping the pci bus might improve discrete gpu throughput, but it's probably not saturated anyway (I guess). I did get to 102 but it just was not worth the 2%.
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