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Hello! At 4.8Ghz,i'm prime95 stable for 3 hours and gaming sessions that are 3-4 hours are perfectly stable too but i get them annoying Kernel-Whea errors.I have PPL overvoltage disabled.Will enabling it help me remove these errors?
Voltage: 1.344V prime95 and 1.328V in games.
Why do people say LLC level 3 is better than 2 ? I use monstly level 2...
Because Vdroop was implemented by Intel to help compensate voltage spikes, defeating such engineering completely is not suggested unless necessary to obtain stability or high clocks. In particular it is important on the ext4 motherboard because of the voltage miscalculation in software. You are probably closer to 1.400 in VCore than 1.300. The link to sin's review that describes the problem is just a page or so back. This has been cross confirmed by a couple regulars in this thread. I have personally measured .081 of unreported voltage on the ext4.

Edit:Here is the post that links to it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition/5140#post_19644560
Edited by inedenimadam - 3/31/13 at 12:01pm
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Hi thanks for reply guys.

I want to note that my vcore on Hwmonitor is showing as high as 1.400V atm on max load with setings I posted above (+0.004v on turbo and +0.005v on vcore offset) on 4.5ghz. I ran prime test with it for 1h and everything seems ok. Also don't have booting problems with windows its great at 4.5. However I also want to note that I still can't boot while I could boot before (Windows) over 4.5ghz. Does it mean something broke? I didnt use internal PLL overvoltage before even when i put 5ghz on and windows booted. Why can't it load now?

whoa something ain't right. that's a v-high vcore for those settings. what LLC are you using?
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Because Vdroop was implemented by Intel to help compensate voltage spikes, defeating such engineering completely is not suggested unless necessary to obtain stability or high clocks. In particular it is important on the ext4 motherboard because of the voltage miscalculation in software. You are probably closer to 1.400 in VCore than 1.300. The link to sin's review that describes the problem is just a page or so back. This has been cross confirmed by a couple regulars in this thread. I have personally measured .081 of unreported voltage on the ext4.

Edit:Here is the post that links to it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition/5140#post_19644560
I recently ordered a DMM because of that.There were ppl who didn't have misreadings voltage software and i hope i'm one of them.If i'm close to 1.4,then explain me how a Hyper212+ is holding temps from 70 to 75 and a single spike to 84 during prime95.Non-delidded chip,17-18C ambient.
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Hello! At 4.8Ghz,i'm prime95 stable for 3 hours and gaming sessions that are 3-4 hours are perfectly stable too but i get them annoying Kernel-Whea errors.I have PPL overvoltage disabled.Will enabling it help me remove these errors?
Voltage: 1.344V prime95 and 1.328V in games.
Why do people say LLC level 3 is better than 2 ? I use monstly level 2...

yes, enable PLL overvoltage - usually solves hi-clock boot problems but can help with stability. IF you are getting WHEA errors the overclock IS NOT stable. that machine-check error results in the proc repeating an instruction to ensure the check-sum matches, so the stack backs up and your processor, although running at 48 is spending time correcting errors and is actually "under performing" for that clock speed. Up vcore either with offset or turbo if you are not in fixed mode.
set up the whea alert (search this forum for wheaville) gotta loose those whea errors.

as inde said, with that board you might want to get a cheap DMM.
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I cant give you hard numbers for the power savings with offset mode, it would depend on too many independent variables based on your usage habits. I think of it as leaving an extra light bulb on, because the wattage delta is roughly 60W-70W using offset. Degradation occurs no matter what you do, but happens slower at lower temperatures, higher voltage=higher temperatures. The 212 is, as I understand, a decent cooler for the money, but is far from a top tier cooling solutions for super high clocks. I highly suggest taking the extra time to set your overclock up using offset mode, unless you have a specific reason that fixed is necessary.

How far along are you now? Multiplier? VCore? offset? turbo? LLC? Max Temp?

I'll give offset mode a shot ty for the infos. I have yet to make my first adjustments to my bios. I wanted to make sure I knew what I was going to be doing before starting. I think I'm almost ready to begin. I'm probably going to start playing with the bios later today.
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I recently ordered a DMM because of that.There were ppl who didn't have misreadings voltage software and i hope i'm one of them.If i'm close to 1.4,then explain me how a Hyper212+ is holding temps from 70 to 75 and a single spike to 84 during prime95.Non-delidded chip,17-18C ambient.

Those temps are pretty good! A DMM is defiantly a good investment if you plan to push it to the limit. I would be interested in hearing about these Extreme4 boards that are not showing errors and at what LLC and VCore. "MY" board provides accurate reporting for llc4 and llc5 all the way up to 1.2V after that it starts to grow until at 5.0 LLC1 my VCore is a whole .81 off. Mild overclocks are not really affected to any noticeable degree. If ASRock has changed something on the EXT4 and EXT6 boards or in the bios that would be great! However, you are the first person I have heard that claims that not all ext4's do it, so I am not holding my breath.
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I'll give offset mode a shot ty for the infos. I have yet to make my first adjustments to my bios. I wanted to make sure I knew what I was going to be doing before starting. I think I'm almost ready to begin. I'm probably going to start playing with the bios later today.

I found it handy to have a laptop/tablet with the guide pulled up to match all the bios settings. Good Luck!
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Hi thanks for reply guys.

I want to note that my vcore on Hwmonitor is showing as high as 1.400V atm on max load with setings I posted above (+0.004v on turbo and +0.005v on vcore offset) on 4.5ghz. I ran prime test with it for 1h and everything seems ok. Also don't have booting problems with windows its great at 4.5. However I also want to note that I still can't boot while I could boot before (Windows) over 4.5ghz. Does it mean something broke? I didnt use internal PLL overvoltage before even when i put 5ghz on and windows booted. Why can't it load now?

That vcore is really high for 4.5ghz. I would use CPU-z instead of HWmonitor while stress testing the CPU
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You're right because I had to hold a fan in place just to keep it from throttling. I really want to get some waterblocks for the MOSFETs but no cash right now. I did however rig up a fan to "hang" in my case blowing at the VRM heatsinks. P95 has been running for about a half hr now using the recommended settings in the OC guide and I have seen my temps go up to 89C. If I run the in-place large FFTs torture test, which is what I have always used for stress testing I haven't seen the temps even go into the 80s.

Ok well using custom blend is a good stress for these CPU's since it mixes Small and Large FFT sizes. The Small FFT's are going to give you the hottest temps
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Okay Im getting into the bios and found something I'm not sure what to set it as. Its called the Turbo Boost Power Limit. It is listed right after the Intel Tubo Boost Technology. This isn't to be confused with the Core Max Power Limit which is in a different part of my bios.

What should I set the Turbo Boost Power Limit to be? Theres nothing mentioned in the guide about this particular power limit.
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