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post #5401 of 9489
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changed the vice and changed the wood. popped off in 3 hits.

Temps arent what i expected, but still only have some AS Ceramique and Cooler Master **** that came with a heatsink. CLP and PK3 in the mail.


did you took a video??? please tell me you did biggrin.gif

i delided and temps went down 5 degrees .....CLU and thing dropped 25 ...i was bedazzled
    
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Ill take photos tomorrow, time for bed for me! But is there any reason you can think of as to why it's doing that without seeing my settings?
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Is memtest a separate program or does it come with the prime95 benchmark?
Memtest86+ is a separate program that you need to use, usually overnight, to test your ram. You need to create a bootable media for it:
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
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Ill take photos tomorrow, time for bed for me! But is there any reason you can think of as to why it's doing that without seeing my settings?


to be honest no....it could be a billion different things

could you also post a pic of CPU-Z

we all had to post our BIOS and info to get help....if you dont it could end up being a 5 hour wild goose chase! instead of a simple pointer that can take 1 minute
    
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did you took a video??? please tell me you did biggrin.gif

i delided and temps went down 5 degrees .....CLU and thing dropped 25 ...i was bedazzled

I didnt do ****. i was too worried about getting it off since i had such a hard time last night. But really... the right tools REALLY make a difference. I only went down like 3c though, but as JP said thats because of the **** i put back between the die and ihs. should have my CLU by wednesday
post #5406 of 9489
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Just wondering how is it going with the whole incorrect vcore readings thing in z77 asrock mobos. Reason I ask is I've been using 1.416v (max hwmonitor voltage under load) at 4.8ghz for a week now and I'd not be happy if I discovered my chip is running with 1.5v or something.

Is it safe?

The issue really depends on what LLC setting you are using. at 3 or lower (a higher number with asrock) is probably fine. checking with a DMM is easy and worth doing if you are worried. Voltage (a potential) does not kill a chip... Until a current gate opens. It's current and temperature that will kill the chip.
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A higher offset will never make an overclock unstable. If you're still seeing errors even with a higher setting, you're just not there yet, simple as that.
Unless of course you've hit the temperature or voltage limit, in which case increasing the Vcore further might not be the best idea...


I'm not a big fan of leaving the Turbo setting on Auto for finding a stable overclock, as you'll never know how much voltage it really adds. Instead, if you want a controlled overclock with the Turbo interfering as little as possible, just set it to +0.004v and be done with it, and manage your overclock with the "normal" offset only.

And for a similar reason I advise against using LLC. Really, all it does is just raise your Vcore under load to battle the Vdroop intended by Intel. It has no real benefit, except that it will make you feel better because you now only need e.g. 0.020v offset instead of 0.080v for a stable overclock under load, when in reality your chip will run with the exact same voltage under both settings.
But hey, at least you can now brag with having "such a good chip that only requires an offset of 0.020v for that rock stable 4.5GHz overclock!", because you just have successfully fooled yourself. That's gotta be worth something, right? wink.gif

So I advise against LLC, especially since it can introduce potentially dangerous voltage spikes when going out of load (see this excellent article here).
It may help in some circumstances, but in my opinion it's just not worth it and if you enable it it simply adds one more variable to be aware of.


And lastly, posting any offset/turbo values without the actual Vcore under load is pretty pointless, as no one knows the VIDs for your CPU. This also makes references to other people's setting pointless, as no chip is the same, and what runs fine for your neighbour will most likely not work for you.
For example, I myself have an especially bad chip, which only does 4.4GHz, but already requires ~1.376v under load for that (with a whooping +0.135v offset). That's just the way it is, I've simply got the short stick in the CPU lottery.
Running with an offet of +0.020v wouldn't even let me enter the BIOS.
(At least my temps are fine now at ~74°C in LinX after I've delidded, though my Pro3 still throttles down occasionally due to VRM overheating, but that's an entirely different matter.)


For quickly testing the Vcore value, I either recommend Prime 27.9 with a custom setting of 864k (or 26.6 with 960k), or to fire up LinX directly, which will draw even more power than Prime and cause even more stress on your CPU.
It's also this value you're after, the Vcore under maximum load, after any potential Vdroop. This is the one that needs to be stable, and the one you should be comparing against.
Which brings me back to my previous posting, asking about if there already was such a standard precodure to define the Vcore values being posted here, but obviously there isn't.

Note that running Prime with only one FFT size will not replace a full custom run to test stability, but it is a quick test to see if your current Vcore setting points in the right direction.


Meh, that's become a wall of text again. Probably too few people will read it because of that.

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this does not make sense. please format a usb key fat 32. post with it in. on each bios page hit F12 (scroll where needed) and post the screen shots here using the little paper clip above the edit box. something is not right as spoon said.

Bios are the same from last time i posted the pictures of them, only difference is the set CPU PPL to auto, turbo to auto, LLC to lvl 3 and been messing with offset V since +0.005v


So far ive gone up to offset +.0.085v, LLC lvl 3, turbo on auto and still havent been able to walk back to a computer that hasn't frozen or been resetted.

I know its not my power settings cuz i set it to it doesnt sleep the computer after a certain time and i even ran memtest over night which passed.

Anyways currently testing offset at +.090v



edit: failed prime test... anyone know that code *attached* CurrentSettings.jpg 1343k .jpg file
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+90mV for a 42 multiplier? I would clr cmos, reset the parameters you need to boot (storage, etc. set boot order to your dvd or usb) and run memtest for 12 jours or so. Have you already tested your ram?
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I had it run for 10 hrs over night (while I slept and ran errands in the morning) and still passed.
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passed memtest? or an OC passed and now fails?

oh yeah - you're not using ATXU to overclock - right?
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CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme (STD and model-10) 2 GTX TitanX w/ EK Blocks & Backplates 
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Nvidia Tesla C-class 2 GTX Titan X Pascal (water cooled) GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Plextor 256GB M6e M.2 2x Plextor SSD 256 Raid 0 (Win 7) Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2 Plextor 810 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Aquacomputer GiGant 1680 (4x420) external Rad XSPC RX360 Koolance 380i Laing DDC-1T (2) 
CoolingOSOSOS
Koolance EXC-800 Chiller Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS Swift 1440P 144Hz Seiki 50" 4K monitor (720P-2160i) 240-30Hz Das Keyboard Model S Pro Corsair AX1500i 
CaseMouseAudioOther
MicroCool Banchetto 101 Steelseries Rival Ultimate Ears TF10 Koolance Pump/Fan Controller 
CPUCPUCPUMotherboard
i5 6600K i7 7700K i3 7350 ASUS Max iX APEX, Asrock MOCF, M8Impact 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsRAM
ASUS GTX 1080 Turbo ASUS GTX 960 Mini EVGA GTX 550Ti G.Skill 3600c15 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill 4266c19 Samsung SM951 WD VR 300 Intel 750 NVMe U.2 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Mushkin 512 Intel 600 NVMe Raid0 Plextor DVD ROM Custom Water (Koolance 380i / XSPC 360v2) 
CoolingOSOSOS
Corsair H80iV2 (M8I) Windows 10 Pro Window 7 Linux Mint 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Seiki 4K AOC 1080P Ducky Cherry Black Silverstone 500W SFX form factor/ Seasonic 760W 
CaseMouseAudio
Bench Logitech G700s Ultimate Ears TF10s 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4960X @ 4.7 Asus Rampage IV Black Edition R9 295x2 w/ Koolance Block G Skill 2400 c9 (@ 2133c8) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor 512 SSD VelociRaptor 600GB WD Black 2T 4 Terabyte NAS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Asus BluRay R/W Lite On  AquaComputer 720XT Koolance 380i 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Liang DCC Aux Pump Win10x64 Samsung U28D590 4K/60 (primary) SteelSeries G6 (Cherry Red) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX1200 Sliverstone TJ09 G700 on-board 
Audio
Ultimate Ears TF10s 
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