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Oh ok thanks for clarifying. Guess ill leave it on balance and just mess with sleep mode


edit: Got a WHEA alert so ima raise turbo another notch. What worries me is that a temp got up to 90. Would lowering PLL help?

edit2: grrrrr i got alot of WHEA-LOGGER errors between 12:41am-2:27 am. About 17 of them but prime hadnt failed/crashed or anything. I had gotten less WHEA errors when my turbo v was lower... but apparently if your getting WHEA errors and no p95 fails that means to up the vcore.

That mobo may be mesing with LLC. What is your LLC? 3? If yes, back off vcore to where it was, make sure your ram is bumped a bit and try again. You are using 4 sticks from two kits? Right?
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm a little confused when it comes to setting the additional turbo voltage and the offset voltage.
I'm currently running stable at 4.6GHz, 1.400v (cpuz) [2500k, ASRock z77e-itx]. I have the offset set to +0.020v and turbo voltage at +0.004v. Does that look right? Because I'm not sure which I'm supposed to increase for stability first.
Does this mean I can now increase my turbo voltage to see if I can get a higher clock?

You can use either: offset raises idle and load vcore, turbo raises load vcore only. Sometimes at high overclocks, adding to offset works better than turbo. Both will drop vcore with Multiplier at idle. For example, if the curent settings are good, you could switch to 5mV offset, 20-25mV turbo and probably hit the 1.4V you need for 46x.
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You can use either: offset raises idle and load vcore, turbo raises load vcore only. Sometimes at high overclocks, adding to offset works better than turbo. Both will drop vcore with Multiplier at idle. For example, if the curent settings are good, you could switch to 5mV offset, 20-25mV turbo and probably hit the 1.4V you need for 46x.

Ah ok, thanks thumb.gif

Could I also mess with the PLL voltage or would you not recommend it? How many people actually do this?
    
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Oh ok thanks for clarifying. Guess ill leave it on balance and just mess with sleep mode


edit: Got a WHEA alert so ima raise turbo another notch. What worries me is that a temp got up to 90. Would lowering PLL help?

edit2: grrrrr i got alot of WHEA-LOGGER errors between 12:41am-2:27 am. About 17 of them but prime hadnt failed/crashed or anything. I had gotten less WHEA errors when my turbo v was lower... but apparently if your getting WHEA errors and no p95 fails that means to up the vcore.

That mobo may be mesing with LLC. What is your LLC? 3? If yes, back off vcore to where it was, make sure your ram is bumped a bit and try again. You are using 4 sticks from two kits? Right?

Well before I went to bed I raised turbo 1 more to .05v and it ran fan til hour 6 and had just 1 whea error. Before I left the house to go to class I raised turbo 1 more time and lowered pll.


Yes llc is 3. What do u mean by bump my ram? Add voltage or reinsert the sticks? Yes 4 sticks 2 kits
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Ah ok, thanks thumb.gif

Could I also mess with the PLL voltage or would you not recommend it? How many people actually do this?

I didnt have to mess w/ PLL @ 4.6.

W/ you voltages you should do the opposite and have a lower offset and higher turbo. You want to find a low stable idle vcore then usually leave offset alone and increase Addition turbo voltage to stabilize your cpu at full load.

Im running my 2500k at 4.6 w/ a -0.010 offset and +0.078 turbo. This puts me at 0.978 idle and 1.336-1.344 full load

Whats your current idle and full load vcore in CPU-z w/ the +0.020 offset and +0.004 turbo?
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So I have a question, I'm at 1.4v CPUz at 4.6. Now that I've delided, added CLP and dropped temps by 20c is it possible that I now need less voltage to be stable? Should I start going backwards? Or should I leave it where it's at and up the multi to keep going biggrin.gif finally got a 12 hour prime run with no WHEA or crashes at 46 and 80c max temps. Makes me all sorts of curious now
post #5538 of 9531
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Ah ok, thanks thumb.gif

Could I also mess with the PLL voltage or would you not recommend it? How many people actually do this?

When you have a stable cpu, you can lower cpu pll to try and lower temps somewhat. Once doing so, you need to reestablish the stability again. Raising cpu phase lock loop voltage is not needed unless you mess with bclk settings.
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Well before I went to bed I raised turbo 1 more to .05v and it ran fan til hour 6 and had just 1 whea error. Before I left the house to go to class I raised turbo 1 more time and lowered pll.


Yes llc is 3. What do u mean by bump my ram? Add voltage or reinsert the sticks? Yes 4 sticks 2 kits

If you have 2 kits in, and say.... Tey are rated for 1.5V, increase this to the next higher level 1.529? I think). You may be getting errors from the ram.
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So I have a question, I'm at 1.4v CPUz at 4.6. Now that I've delided, added CLP and dropped temps by 20c is it possible that I now need less voltage to be stable? Should I start going backwards? Or should I leave it where it's at and up the multi to keep going biggrin.gif finally got a 12 hour prime run with no WHEA or crashes at 46 and 80c max temps. Makes me all sorts of curious now

Yes, it is absolutely possible... Remember, ivy's 22nm process leads to more migration... And temperature increases it drastically. More migration... More electrons are "off the reservation" so more vcore needed.... It's a nasty loop. Lowering temp with ivy is very critical. See sinhardware.com for a graph of the effect.
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