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post #5551 of 9534
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Originally Posted by Lucky 23 View Post

IBT if fine for a quick stability test. Some might even use it as their main stability test. I personally don't use it because of how hot it gets the cpu compared to p95 but its up to you just watch your temps
Should ibt throw WHEA errors if p95 is?
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I dont remember seeing an answer to a previous question: I know IBT isnt as good as P95, but how good is it for a quick stability test?
There is a multitude of stability software out there. IBT, P95, and OCCT are the big three. Stable is a relative term. There are lots of "folders" around here, who have machines that need to be 100% "stable" for folding. P95 offers a range of tests that are not all that dissimilar to folding and requires 15 (I think) hours to complete a full loop. That is the type of stability folders are looking for. IBT is (as I understand it) good for stability testing too, and will test your cooling to extremes at the same time. OCCT is a bit more mild on temperatures at default settings, and has more options for testing than either IBT or P95, and it includes gpu stress tests, and superior system monitoring and thermal break points. I don't fully understand why OCCT is not more widely adopted on OCN, but it isn't.

I run OCCT for all of my overclocking, and only pull out P95 for discussion purposes on OCN related posts.
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Came home from school/work and prime95 had been running for 11 hrs and finally no whea errors or anything. Finally! Max temp 88, max vcore 1.254

Also ordered a h100i... so ima try to push this bad boy to 4.8 next week.

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I didnt have to mess w/ PLL @ 4.6.

W/ you voltages you should do the opposite and have a lower offset and higher turbo. You want to find a low stable idle vcore then usually leave offset alone and increase Addition turbo voltage to stabilize your cpu at full load.

Im running my 2500k at 4.6 w/ a -0.010 offset and +0.078 turbo. This puts me at 0.978 idle and 1.336-1.344 full load

Whats your current idle and full load vcore in CPU-z w/ the +0.020 offset and +0.004 turbo?

Ah ok thanks for clearing that up. My idle vcore (from memory, I'm not home at the moment to check) is 1.18v and under full load it's 1.400v
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When you have a stable cpu, you can lower cpu pll to try and lower temps somewhat. Once doing so, you need to reestablish the stability again. Raising cpu phase lock loop voltage is not needed unless you mess with bclk settings.

If I manage to get a stable 4.7GHz OC or even higher I'll play with PLL to see if I can drop temps a bit. At the moment with 4.6GHz @ 1.400v I'm getting high 70s - low 80s (once again, not home to check exact #s). My room gets incredibly hot during the day (28c+) and I can definitely see that effecting my temps. Thankfully gaming temps are a bit better, although not by much for bf3.
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Sorry my typing is really bad I will try and make it easier to read. Anyways I did start my overclock 100% over with this new ram at 2133 and I do understand it may need more Vcore. What I really don't understand is if Vcore directly connected to the memory controller or is one of the other voltage settings control that? I also seem to be having problems with LLC and offset voltage as I ran prime95 for 10 hours all passed this morning and I load up World of Warcraft and I got a blue screen. Now when I was playing wow I had CPUz open and the CPU was clocked up at 4.5GHz but I only had 40% cpu usage so CPUz was only showing volts hitting 1.29 and not the 1.37 I had with prime loaded. So what it comes down to is I think I'm doing something wrong with LLC and my off set voltage like I don't understand 100% how it works maybe.

I'm really just looking to get 4.5GHz-4.7GHz stable with out braking the 1.4 volts. I have a really good custom water cooling loop so my temps like the highest I have ever seen is 63c but normal is around 55c so temps are 100% in check. I guess I'm just looking for someone that can tell me is this 2133 RAM holding me down and making me have this higher Vcore or can I up another voltage and understand LLC and offset voltage settings better to help.

Could you clock your current RAM down to 1600MHz to see if you can get the cpu stable again? At least it would confirm if it's the RAM or not that's giving you issues.
You say you were running 4.5GHz but a only 40%, I had the same problem where I would be running at 4.5GHz but it was only showing 50%+/- usage and I found that increasing my vcore helped. I know you don't want to go above 1.4v but I'm just letting you know I had the same problem and how I fixed it.
If I were you I would try to downclock the RAM to 1600MHz to see if it helps.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, someone else with greater knowledge will have to help you out.
    
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Came home from school/work and prime95 had been running for 11 hrs and finally no whea errors or anything. Finally! Max temp 88, max vcore 1.254

Also ordered a h100i... so ima try to push this bad boy to 4.8 next week.

Sent from my Galaxy S3
NICE! Feels good to be stable doesn't it? When you get the h100i would you run a 30 p95 test, let it warm up through the 8kk fft before changing your overclock settings? I don't have your exact cooler, but I have a similar small cheap air cooler. I have been eyeballing the h100i pretty heavy, but haven't pulled the trigger because funds are tight right now (taking 73 days in Puerto Rico over the summer) and I cant afford to purchase components twice.
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I tried adding +10 and it's still happening. Maybe it's the games...?
Games are BFBC2 and BF3 that are causing the errors. It happens typically when the game crashes... in the exact same moment.

Is it possible for an unstable GPU OC to cause WHEA errors? That might be my issue... rolleyes.gif

yes, if the cpu is presented with bad data -> whea. try reloading the drivers. but first, open a cmd prompt, type in: sfc /scannow

if it reports anything but 'nothing found' definitely rreload the drivers!
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yes, if the cpu is presented with bad data -> whea. try reloading the drivers. but first, open a cmd prompt, type in: sfc /scannow

if it reports anything but 'nothing found' definitely rreload the drivers!

I tried it already and it found errors that it could not fixed. I actually have a new installation of Win8, so I'm not sure how is it that anything got corrupted since then. Just installed it a little over a week ago.

What do you mean reload the drivers? Re-install them? I tried upping the vcore and we'll see what happens. It's only in those two games that I am mainly having the issue though. redface.gif
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Should ibt throw WHEA errors if p95 is?

they are very different stressors to the hardware. IBT implementation of linpak is very good at pulling max watts and testing your cooling equip.. OCCT also provide the linpak kernel, but offers another CPU stressor (which I think is like AID64? IDK).

Anyway - you shouldn't rely on any one. I rarely test beyond an hour for everyday use and frankly I have never had a system crash that I didn't force, like with benchmarking gpus etc. (.. lucky). But I have a saved bios that is 24h p95, 2h IBT, 32M superPix3=same result, and AID64 4h stable that I use for some work-related projects at 48x... ~1.434V under load for rock stable
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I tried it already and it found errors that it could not fixed. I actually have a new installation of Win8, so I'm not sure how is it that anything got corrupted since then. Just installed it a little over a week ago.

What do you mean reload the drivers? Re-install them? I tried upping the vcore and we'll see what happens. It's only in those two games that I am mainly having the issue though. redface.gif

sorry - I should have looked at which OS you are using. I still haven't poked around for the W8 equivalent of sfc.
never hurts to reinstall drivers

BF3 and BFBC2 are not on the "usual suspect list". so you have instability lurking somewhere. It just freezes, CTD or BSOD? Which?
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Originally Posted by LReyes66 View Post

Came home from school/work and prime95 had been running for 11 hrs and finally no whea errors or anything. Finally! Max temp 88, max vcore 1.254

Also ordered a h100i... so ima try to push this bad boy to 4.8 next week.

Sent from my Galaxy S3

just be careful with that mobo if you go much higher in vcore... maybe get a DMM and read the actual vcore from the capacitor? There's a lot of worrisome stuff out there especially if you use more than LLC 3. CPUZ may read 80-100mV low vs actual.

Spoon ... any comments?
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