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so with the vanilla settings: 4.3 Vanilla Overclock (Click to show)




I BSOD'ed twice in a row with temps hitting 93, and 95. frown.gif i actually think this is a cooling problem with my Corsair h80i. Would the BIOS settings have caused this?

You definitely have a cooling issue that you need to fix before you try to OC. I would remount the cooler and watch how much TIM you use (you don't need much at all)
post #6302 of 9536
You shouldn't BSOD due to the temps though. You would experience throttling or just a hard shut down, but no BSOD (and even then you'd still have ~10K to go).
However that doesn't mean your cooling is fine, indeed it looks very very broken with the settings you're using. Unless the VID of your CPU is already at something like 1.4v (and even my POS isn't that bad).

So to get rid of these BSODs, you need to increase your Vcore, but in order to do so, you first need to fix your cooling.


// Edit
Just saw you're running @1.208v under load. Yeah, temps are way too high for that.
Edited by spoonium - 5/10/13 at 5:00am
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Got a question for you guys. I made a thread about it but I want to get your guys' help.

So out of nowhere my temps shot up to 80C running IBT on max. Reseated a couple of times and even switched my D14 for an EVO with the same result. On stock, temps would reach 70C. Overclocked, they would reach 105c. I'm serious. Checked pipes and the cooler is making contact because I touch it and it is warm. At 105C I touched it, and it wasn't 105C hot. Could it be the sensors on either my CPU or mobo? Checking the temp in BIOS shows the CPU at 31C. I made sure I applied the paste correctly and screwed the cooler in. BIOS is up to date and did a fresh install. Voltage isn't the problem either. I was running the exact same speed, volts, everything and just two days ago I got these high temps. What can be the culprit?
Edited by ZeVo - 5/10/13 at 7:14pm
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^How many temp programs did you use to confirm temps? HWMonitor, Real Temp, Core Temp, HWiFO64?
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Got a question for you guys. I made a thread about it but I want to get your guys' help.

So out of nowhere my temps shot up to 80C running IBT on max. Reseated a couple of times and even switched my D14 for an EVO with the same result. On stock, temps would reach 70C. Overclocked, they would reach 105c. I'm serious. Checked pipes and the cooler is making contact because I touch it and it is warm. At 105C I touched it, and it wasn't 105C hot. Could it be the sensors on either my CPU or mobo? Checking the temp in BIOS shows the CPU at 31C. I made sure I applied the paste correctly and screwed the cooler in. BIOS is up to date and did a fresh install. Voltage isn't the problem either. I was running the exact same speed, volts, everything and just two days ago I got these high temps. What can be the culprit?

First make sure that you have only one program pointing to the mobo temp sensor at a time. Get a copy of Process Explorer from Sysinternals.com, and a copy of Open Hardware Monitor (both free) and post a screen shot with OHM and PE running - show "Value, Min and Max colums in OHM. A non-delidded 3570K will run hot (very hot) with IBT. let's see what's going on in there.
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As long as you don't go over 1.4 to 1.5 you should be fine~

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Depends a lot on temps. 1.4v is ok with great temps, but not ok if you are at 90c. I wouldn’t go over 1.5v or so even with good temps for 24/7. Under 1.35v you shouldn’t have to worry too much. Electromigration is always happening, we just speed it up with increased voltage and heat.

Has anyone running a Ivy Bridge run into electromigration problems yet? Because from what I read, 1.4v was "that" voltage for Sandy Bridge, the red zone voltage that would start to see serious degradation if you ran it for 24/7. And that's on a 32nm chip, with Ivy I would expect the drop to be significantly more than 1.4v...

65nm = 1.4v
45nm = 1.35v
32nm = 1.3v
22nm = ??? 1.2v

Damn, the more I read about CPU degradation, the more I want to drop to 3.5Ghz and seriously undervolt frown.gif I need this chip to last me at least 5 years, so I don't really know how bad a ~1.275v overclock really is on an Ivy Bridge. Blah wish there was more hard data on CPU degradation out there.
post #6307 of 9536
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Has anyone running a Ivy Bridge run into electromigration problems yet? Because from what I read, 1.4v was "that" voltage for Sandy Bridge, the red zone voltage that would start to see serious degradation if you ran it for 24/7. And that's on a 32nm chip, with Ivy I would expect the drop to be significantly more than 1.4v...

65nm = 1.4v
45nm = 1.35v
32nm = 1.3v
22nm = ??? 1.2v

Damn, the more I read about CPU degradation, the more I want to drop to 3.5Ghz and seriously undervolt frown.gif I need this chip to last me at least 5 years, so I don't really know how bad a ~1.275v overclock really is on an Ivy Bridge. Blah wish there was more hard data on CPU degradation out there.

I'm running 1.245v for my 4.6ghz on my IB so I think its decent tongue.gif
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Has anyone running a Ivy Bridge run into electromigration problems yet? Because from what I read, 1.4v was "that" voltage for Sandy Bridge, the red zone voltage that would start to see serious degradation if you ran it for 24/7. And that's on a 32nm chip, with Ivy I would expect the drop to be significantly more than 1.4v...

65nm = 1.4v
45nm = 1.35v
32nm = 1.3v
22nm = ??? 1.2v

Damn, the more I read about CPU degradation, the more I want to drop to 3.5Ghz and seriously undervolt frown.gif I need this chip to last me at least 5 years, so I don't really know how bad a ~1.275v overclock really is on an Ivy Bridge. Blah wish there was more hard data on CPU degradation out there.

you may be overreacting to degradation myths... but if you want your chip to last more than 5 years, why visit an overclocking forum? tongue.gif id be VERY surprised if your 1.08V "overclock" results in degradation... BUT YOU MUST control the temperature at any OC with IB to keep migration/seepage as low as possible.

I have my 2700K running >1.3V since it was launched (not 5 years) and it's fine. As is my QX9650.

You'd be surprised at how durable the intel product is. you may want to cruise one of the folding forums where guys run 'em 24/7 and max clocks for very long duration.
Edited by Jpmboy - 5/11/13 at 5:22am
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I run 1.41v on both my Ivy chips with no issues, but I am delidded so my day to day temps do not go over 60c.
The pro benchers here have already stated that Ivy is much tougher than Sandy.
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^How many temp programs did you use to confirm temps? HWMonitor, Real Temp, Core Temp, HWiFO64?
RealTemp and Core Temp showed the same thing, but haven't used HWMonitor. Using Open Hardware Monitor now and everything seems fine.

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First make sure that you have only one program pointing to the mobo temp sensor at a time. Get a copy of Process Explorer from Sysinternals.com, and a copy of Open Hardware Monitor (both free) and post a screen shot with OHM and PE running - show "Value, Min and Max colums in OHM. A non-delidded 3570K will run hot (very hot) with IBT. let's see what's going on in there.


Like that? OHM it actually showing temps like I used to see. But once I hit reset, the temperatures vary from each other a lot. 30-23-33-19. Is that normal?

Running P95 for about 10 minutes. Set memory use to around 6500 and FFT to 1792.


Edited by ZeVo - 5/11/13 at 9:58am
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