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Right? What's with all the faces? Prolly the reason i wouldnt buy the fatality. Couldnt stand that bios background!
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Agreed. The board is sexy and just a red and black bios background will do
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Hello

and excuse my english

I don´t like the face buat i don´t watch bios often so:)

About my question about the temperature in the bios i have read in another forum in a discussion about 2600k temps that it is normal because in bios the cpu get the max vcore setting and operates at its maximum frequency without energy savings and many people have temps similar to mine and higher.

thanks
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On the Z68 Fatal1ty you can actually remove the face:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRaQYXbQzY&t=270


As for the temps, it's true that the CPU runs at full Vcore and frequency. The power saving options aren't kicking in, but it's stil not doing anything.
45°C is rather high, but this could also be due fan settings, and in the end what really matters is how cool your CPU stays under load. 30°C idle vs. 45°C idle won't make any significant difference (unless your whole case temp is at 45°C in idle, which your hard drives may not find too amusing for 24/7 use).
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Ive done the easy part, changing the multiplier till i got a sort of stable one. at 45 it booted but gave me errors, at 44 it seems stable. now what? whats the goal after this? should i up the turbo voltage to get a higher multiplier? heres cpu-z during stress test :





also why doesnt the guide say to increase vcore, but only turbo boost? and I dont understand the load-line calibration bit
Quote:
You want to find the setting that will get you the same Vcore that is says in BIOS, during load in Windows as reported by CPU-Z.

does that mean the vcore should be reported that same?
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Ive done the easy part, changing the multiplier till i got a sort of stable one. at 45 it booted but gave me errors, at 44 it seems stable. now what? whats the goal after this? should i up the turbo voltage to get a higher multiplier? heres cpu-z during

also why doesnt the guide say to increase vcore, but only turbo boost? and I dont understand the load-line calibration bit
does that mean the vcore should be reported that same?

So, if it can do 44x at stock with all settings on "Auto"? Or at +5/4mV offset/turbo?
Set multi to 45, C1E on, all other c-states off, set LLC =3 or at it's midpoint.
Offset to +5 or +10mV
And increase Turbo one notch at a time until 45 is stable under p95 with the OP's settings for 20min. Watch your temps!!
If your goal is 4.5GHz... Run p95 with 50% ram for a few hours or as long (or short) as you like
If not, increase multi to 46, add 10-20mV to turbo (as a start, may lower or raise from there)
Test again... Add/substract Turbo to find the lowest vcore needed for stability.

It's not at all difficult or risky to shoot for 46x so long as you watch your tempertures under load, and keep the vcore as low as the chip will allow. Above, 46 consult this thread... Lots of very helpful folks here! smile.gif

Oh yeah, the guide does say to increase vcore ... Using offset and turbo. Offset adds mV to idle and load, turbo adds mV to load vcore only.
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1.168v is a very nice result for 4400MHz, assuming it's really stable and WHEA error free.
And yeah, just go ahead and increase the Offset / Turbo Voltage for higher clocks, you've got plenty of room to increase that. You'll probably hit the temp wall before the Vcore wall with your current setup.

It doesn't really matter which one of both you increase, Offset or Turbo Voltage, but you'll save a few Watt if you do it by the Turbo Voltage (your overclock may become unstable on idle at a point though if you overclock too high with too low idle voltage, just be aware of that). The difference is very minor, but it's there.

As for the Load Lice Calibration (LLC), just don't go above level 3 for this setting ("above" means level 1 or 2 - I'd still advise using level 5 resp. 100%).
Higher LLC levels basically just add additional Vcore under load, resp. balance out the reduction of the Vcore under load which was intended by Intel.
(There's more to it, but if you don't want to know more about it, you don't need to know more. wink.gif)
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Hello
and excuse my english
I don´t like the face buat i don´t watch bios often so:)
About my question about the temperature in the bios i have read in another forum in a discussion about 2600k temps that it is normal because in bios the cpu get the max vcore setting and operates at its maximum frequency without energy savings and many people have temps similar to mine and higher.
thanks

I agree with spoon, 45c in bios seems high but it does depend upon your cooling and fan controls. My 2700k at 46 with 1.32v is 35c in bios. At 47 with 1.37v it is approx 42c with a full copper waterblock! Never exceeds 78c at either setting under p95 or IBT.
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So, if it can do 44x at stock with all settings on "Auto"? Or at +5/4mV offset/turbo?
Set multi to 45, C1E on, all other c-states off, set LLC =3 or at it's midpoint.
Offset to +5 or +10mV
And increase Turbo one notch at a time until 45 is stable under p95 with the OP's settings for 20min. Watch your temps!!
If your goal is 4.5GHz... Run p95 with 50% ram for a few hours or as long (or short) as you like
If not, increase multi to 46, add 10-20mV to turbo (as a start, may lower or raise from there)
Test again... Add/substract Turbo to find the lowest vcore needed for stability.

It's not at all difficult or risky to shoot for 46x so long as you watch your tempertures under load, and keep the vcore as low as the chip will allow. Above, 46 consult this thread... Lots of very helpful folks here! smile.gif

Oh yeah, the guide does say to increase vcore ... Using offset and turbo. Offset adds mV to idle and load, turbo adds mV to load vcore only.

I'll be trying that then, i should only focus on turbo boost and not much else if im not mistaken. ive had it set on the values in the guide, which seem to be above from what the default auto are but i havent noticed temp change. and ive yet to do a 12 hour test, just one hour. id be happy with 4.5 so ill see how it goes. thanks.
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I'll be trying that then, i should only focus on turbo boost and not much else if im not mistaken. ive had it set on the values in the guide, which seem to be above from what the default auto are but i havent noticed temp change. and ive yet to do a 12 hour test, just one hour. id be happy with 4.5 so ill see how it goes. thanks.

A 1 hour test is fine for routine use. Some say to test for 12 or more hours... I think you should test your system in a manner consistent with it's intended use. For gaming, it's more likely to crash from bad code than only testing p95 for 1 hour smile.gif

With that vcore at 44, if all other components are good, 46 is well within reach as a 24/7 OC. As a "rule of thumb" each 100MHz costs about 40mV depending on which 100MHz it is wink.gif

BTW, plz update your sig with your new rig.
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