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IBT is a good heat generator and does assess a degree of stability. Personally i find that using both IBT and p95 will catch most issues. I run p95 for 1-2 hours with 90% ram loaded and never had a crash with that (set according to this guide, page 1). For a work-rig I did run 12h p95, but still had a hang which was likely due to a poorly coded "helper" routine... it's all a matter of degrees and what the intended use of the rig is.
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Well did a quick hour of Prime 95 and had no issues or events! Will try it a little longer tomorrow when I have a chance
    
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Okay - before leaving 4.4 (still, v high vcore:worriedsm) please post a desktop shot with p95 running and OHM visible. what vdroop are you getting under load?
See that 1.352V max @ 43x? try setting LLC to 4 - test for stability - and note that spike. The other way to go about this is to raise LLC to 2 and start lowering vcore. to hold a higher load line but drop idle and that overshoot.

what is the max temp u get at 44 with p95 small FFT? (just run 5 min - it will peak quickly)
That 1.352 I guess wasn't at full load, just browsing something, in benchmark it went to 1.360 and it was on 44x
OHM after p95, offset -0,010, 44x

I wonder why p95 doesn't go as high with vcore as OCCT does. Here you can see 1,336 when in OCCT it goes to 1,352.

Here you can see my vcore, as you can see vdroop is normal. Vdroop is normal on every vcore.
Temps are 75-82 max.
Today I tested those settings on offset -0,020(1,336V) and -0,015(1.344) and it is not stable. It is stable at offset -0,005(1,352V) and offset -0,010(1,352V). So in fact it is stable at 1,350V.
Later I will change to LLC2 and go for a higher -offset, but I think it won't help.
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Well did a quick hour of Prime 95 and had no issues or events! Will try it a little longer tomorrow when I have a chance

nice OC! an hour is fine for "non-mission critical" use.thumb.gif
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That 1.352 I guess wasn't at full load, just browsing something, in benchmark it went to 1.360 and it was on 44x
OHM after p95, offset -0,010, 44x

I wonder why p95 doesn't go as high with vcore as OCCT does. Here you can see 1,336 when in OCCT it goes to 1,352.

Here you can see my vcore, as you can see vdroop is normal. Vdroop is normal on every vcore.
Temps are 75-82 max.
Today I tested those settings on offset -0,020(1,336V) and -0,015(1.344) and it is not stable. It is stable at offset -0,005(1,352V) and offset -0,010(1,352V). So in fact it is stable at 1,350V.
Later I will change to LLC2 and go for a higher -offset, but I think it won't help.

Yeah - it looks like either the mobo is reporting high, or the chip is power hungry. If you want to be absolutely sure you can use a digital multimeter and read the vcore capacitor from back of the board. I don't think that MB has top side voltage read points
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Yeah - it looks like either the mobo is reporting high, or the chip is power hungry. If you want to be absolutely sure you can use a digital multimeter and read the vcore capacitor from back of the board. I don't think that MB has top side voltage read points
I don't own a multimeter, and I won't pull out mobo.
What about these other voltages?
CPU PLL Voltage and VTT I wonder if they could help.
If not I'll stay on -0,010 offset. I launched some games, and vcore max was 1,344, and temps 60C. How do you think will this vcore be deadly on long term?
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I don't own a multimeter, and I won't pull out mobo.
What about these other voltages?
CPU PLL Voltage and VTT I wonder if they could help.
If not I'll stay on -0,010 offset. I launched some games, and vcore max was 1,344, and temps 60C. How do you think will this vcore be deadly on long term?

Yeah - i know. It's a PIA to pull the MB. No, not deadly at all. the chip can run at 1.5V with proper cooling. you can try lowering PLL to lower temps - but will then need to redo stability. VTT probably won't help unless you are overclocking (or down-clocking) RAM.

Hey - 44 is a very good OC! And for gaming you will not notice a difference between 44 and even 48 (well, maybe a few CPU-bound games, but that's all).

oh - and too your question as to why p95 loads a lower vcore vs linpak... it's because it actually hits more of the cpu architecture and triggers more vdroop especially as it nears completion of a given FFT. If you search this forum, you will find OCers wih hours of stability with OCCT, AID64, IBT... then crash immediately with p95.
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Ok. I finally have my rig fixed. Still pissed off about the water tho.

My temps are pretty much the same(stock clock example : ambient about 25C-30C, 40C at idle and never quite reaching 70C at load.) and I have been wondering if I would be able to lower temps by reseating my cooler(an h80I, my sig rig is slightly outdated compared to what I currently use and I just haven't gotten around to fix it.).

Oh, and I can't seem to get prime to use most of my Ram(16gb). I should be setting it to 8192 right? But for some reason it will only use 10gbs.
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Yeah - i know. It's a PIA to pull the MB. No, not deadly at all. the chip can run at 1.5V with proper cooling. you can try lowering PLL to lower temps - but will then need to redo stability. VTT probably won't help unless you are overclocking (or down-clocking) RAM.

Hey - 44 is a very good OC! And for gaming you will not notice a difference between 44 and even 48 (well, maybe a few CPU-bound games, but that's all).

oh - and too your question as to why p95 loads a lower vcore vs linpak... it's because it actually hits more of the cpu architecture and triggers more vdroop especially as it nears completion of a given FFT. If you search this forum, you will find OCers wih hours of stability with OCCT, AID64, IBT... then crash immediately with p95.
I don't play games that use CPU very much anyway
Much obliged smile.gif thanks for your help!
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your chip and mobo will like 2133. smile.gif

What would you recommend, been looking at scan on the link below however not sure which to choose.

Cheers

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Intel i7 6700K ASUS Maximus Code MSI NVidia GTX 1080 GSkill TridentZ 16GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 950 M.2 Custom Loop Windows 10 Pro ASUS PG348Q 
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EVGA 650 G2 Thermaltake Core P3 
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