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post #6671 of 9531
2133 and above? i usually recommend kingston hyperx predator (the 2400mhz variant) because they look cool... or those crucial rams.(ballistix elite for one, only 1866mhz though. it is clockable anyways. never get to try any corsair rams because they are quite expensive here.
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nice OC! an hour is fine for "non-mission critical" use.thumb.gif

Ran prime a for four hours and no errors:) but the event viewer had a WHEA error.mad.gif Also ran prime for four hours stock to see if any WHEA and had none.
Guess I will bump it up a little and see what happens. Funny I run my Sandy at 1.386 (45*103.8) but I am squeamish about increasing the Volts on this because of the Temps.
    
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I've been following the guide to make my 2600k stable with Z68 Extreme4. When I got my 4.5GHz overclock stable, I wasn't using AVX supported Prime95. I've been having some stability issues every now and then and when I checked using Prime95 (AVX), it wasn't stable. It would fail after few hours. It's not 12hrs stable.

I'm a bit lost with this guide. Do you increase the Turbo Boost voltage or the Offset voltage to increase the Vcore (that's shown in CPU-Z while stressing in Prime95)? The guide says that I have to increase the Turbo Boost voltage, but when I do that, unless the CPU is heavily stressed, the Vcore doesn't increase to match the value I need. For example, when the load is low, as in running a game, the Vcore is too low and it crashes. But runs fine in stress tests. Guess I have to increase the Offset voltage instead?

Another thing. I tried running with Fixed Vcore and at level 3 LLC, to get the 1.34V-ish Vcore that the CPU needs to be stable, I had to set 1.405V in UEFI. Is that normal?

Further, I could pass 6hrs of Prime95 test given in the first post but it failed blend test after about 1.5hrs.

This is with multi 45, LLC4, offset +0.075, 1.586V PLL, rest at Auto. C states are actually ENABLED. That LLC4 is helping to get rid of the idle BSODs. That was where my old OC was at. Now I'm following the guide and trying to hit 4.6 or if possible 4.7GHz. But this CPU is a bad clocker. 28.5C ambient isn't helping much either.

One more thing. It seems that other people are getting errors instead of BSODs. I always get 0x124 BSOD. Have never seen an error in Prime. Could the problem be with VTT and not Vcore? VTT is at AUTO. I have 4 sticks of Corsair Vengeance sticks, all running at 1.5V 9/9/9/24/1T.
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Ran prime a for four hours and no errors:) but the event viewer had a WHEA error.mad.gif Also ran prime for four hours stock to see if any WHEA and had none.
Guess I will bump it up a little and see what happens. Funny I run my Sandy at 1.386 (45*103.8) but I am squeamish about increasing the Volts on this because of the Temps.

What tim did you use between the die and ihs ( i think you delidded- right?). If you used CLU many tiems we apply waaaay too much. Should be as thin as a mirror coat. Yiur rig should be able to shed the heat better than it seems to right now. I find that PK1 or HeGrease, or Gelid extreme work very well between the ihs and cooler.

Most times, the few % you get with bclk on ivy and sandy is not worth the cost in instability. Disable spreadspectrum and lock bclk at 100. You'll do better increasing the multiplier when using offset. Bclk and offset OC (dynamic VID) just dont work well together. Fixed mode maybe, but still not worth the headache.
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I've been following the guide to make my 2600k stable with Z68 Extreme4. When I got my 4.5GHz overclock stable, I wasn't using AVX supported Prime95. I've been having some stability issues every now and then and when I checked using Prime95 (AVX), it wasn't stable. It would fail after few hours. It's not 12hrs stable.

I'm a bit lost with this guide. Do you increase the Turbo Boost voltage or the Offset voltage to increase the Vcore (that's shown in CPU-Z while stressing in Prime95)? The guide says that I have to increase the Turbo Boost voltage, but when I do that, unless the CPU is heavily stressed, the Vcore doesn't increase to match the value I need. For example, when the load is low, as in running a game, the Vcore is too low and it crashes. But runs fine in stress tests. Guess I have to increase the Offset voltage instead?

Another thing. I tried running with Fixed Vcore and at level 3 LLC, to get the 1.34V-ish Vcore that the CPU needs to be stable, I had to set 1.405V in UEFI. Is that normal?

Further, I could pass 6hrs of Prime95 test given in the first post but it failed blend test after about 1.5hrs.

This is with multi 45, LLC4, offset +0.075, 1.586V PLL, rest at Auto. C states are actually ENABLED. That LLC4 is helping to get rid of the idle BSODs. That was where my old OC was at. Now I'm following the guide and trying to hit 4.6 or if possible 4.7GHz. But this CPU is a bad clocker. 28.5C ambient isn't helping much either.

One more thing. It seems that other people are getting errors instead of BSODs. I always get 0x124 BSOD. Have never seen an error in Prime. Could the problem be with VTT and not Vcore? VTT is at AUTO. I have 4 sticks of Corsair Vengeance sticks, all running at 1.5V 9/9/9/24/1T.

Sandy does not record MCEs (whea). Also, a 124 may or may not be vcore... If raising vcore does not solve it, it ' s best to examine the dmp file. So, first, i would set LLC to the mid point 3 or which ever number is 50% (on your board, is 1 = 100% ie, full vdroop compensation?), disable all sleep states except c1e. Put 10mV in offset, and approx 65mV in turbo. Set CPU PLL to auto (why so low?) and multi to 45. Ram to your XMP. Test stability for only 20 min... Watch temps. Increase multi to 46... Add approx 30-40mV to turbo and test...increase Turbo until stable, or it cant handle tne watts. If good at 46.. Raise th multi to 47... Repeat smile.gif. Somewhere at 46 or above, you will need to enable Internal PLL to get windows to boot cleanly...

On average, each 100mhz costs about 40mV... Until you hit the non linear range then it will really jump per 100. Thats above the chips sweet spot, and each is different.
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Sandy does not record MCEs (whea). Also, a 124 may or may not be vcore... If raising vcore does not solve it, it ' s best to examine the dmp file. So, first, i would set LLC to the mid point 3 or which ever number is 50% (on your board, is 1 = 100% ie, full vdroop compensation?), disable all sleep states except c1e. Put 10mV in offset, and approx 65mV in turbo. Set CPU PLL to auto (why so low?) and multi to 45. Ram to your XMP. Test stability for only 20 min... Watch temps. Increase multi to 46... Add approx 30-40mV to turbo and test...increase Turbo until stable, or it cant handle tne watts. If good at 46.. Raise th multi to 47... Repeat smile.gif. Somewhere at 46 or above, you will need to enable Internal PLL to get windows to boot cleanly...

On average, each 100mhz costs about 40mV... Until you hit the non linear range then it will really jump per 100. Thats above the chips sweet spot, and each is different.
OK. I will try that.

I've been playing with the old settings that I had. At 45x multi, LLC lvl4, offset +0.085 prime blend test crashed just after 12hrs. Insane!
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Still getting random WHEA-logger errors... Like once in a month. They only come while gaming (BF3 and FC3 only games that have caused them). I have not crashed and not seeing any instability. I raised CPU PLL back to 1,83v from 1,568v and added 0,01v more turbo voltage, lets see if that does anything. I'm running 4,4Ghz@1,192v (probably more because Asrock Z77 e4).
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What tim did you use between the die and ihs ( i think you delidded- right?). If you used CLU many tiems we apply waaaay too much. Should be as thin as a mirror coat. Yiur rig should be able to shed the heat better than it seems to right now. I find that PK1 or HeGrease, or Gelid extreme work very well between the ihs and cooler.

Most times, the few % you get with bclk on ivy and sandy is not worth the cost in instability. Disable spreadspectrum and lock bclk at 100. You'll do better increasing the multiplier when using offset. Bclk and offset OC (dynamic VID) just dont work well together. Fixed mode maybe, but still not worth the headache.

Yes, I did pop the top on this one. Perhaps I did use a little too much CLPro and PK3 on IHS, haven't gone past low 70s yet so that seems in line for just an 212 EVO.

One thing I have noticed is that this Asrock board has much more vdroop than my Gigabyte.

Will be out of town this weekend so no tinkering for me
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Guys, do you know of a way to squeeze a little more BCLK? My current situation:

i7 3770 non-K on ASRock P67 Pro3 (I got the 3770 quite cheap and could not resist to test HT, and I really like it)
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Going up to 108 MHz is already very unstable. Memory is set to lowest speed. I've already tried raising VTT to 1.10 V, but that didn't help a thing. If you have ideas how to get my BCLK a bit higher, I'd love to hear them.

I once used a 3570K with BCLK of 110 MHz on this mobo.
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OK. I will try that.

I've been playing with the old settings that I had. At 45x multi, LLC lvl4, offset +0.085 prime blend test crashed just after 12hrs. Insane!

Yeah, if you're still getting 124 (and not 101), i'd bet it's not the chip. If the 124 happens faster with like 80% ram committed vs the base 1600mb, make sure the ram is seated coreectly and that the xmp is actually loading the proper settings.

A 124 error can be anything from a graphics card/pcie fark, to a weak IMC. Can take days to sort out IF not simply vcore or vtt? Manytimes, simply reseating the hardware will resolve it.
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MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Seiki 4K AOC 1080P Ducky Cherry Black Silverstone 500W SFX form factor/ Seasonic 760W 
CaseMouseAudio
Bench Logitech G700s Ultimate Ears TF10s 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7740X ASUS Rampage Apex Various G.Skill 3600c15 2x8GB kits 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Samsung 960 Pro, NVMe Custom Water Windows 10 Razor Black Widow 
PowerCase
Seasonic 1000 Platinum, Corsair 1500i none :-) 
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