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Then you can do this! start with -.050 (cant get any closer to 0 ) offset and +.004 additional turbo, and set multiplier to 45 and see if it is stable! Hopefully your voltage will be below 1.35 and your temps below 80.

Edit to add: obviously set the rest of your bios like the pictures on the first page of this thread

What exactly does the negative offset 50 do? And if its not stable do i just need to add more turbo voltage? Or lower the multiplier?

the negative offset essentially reduces the voltage of the CPU at every "state" (16-45), where turbo voltage will only affect the top multiplier (45)

I would prefer you set a +.005 offset, but you said it was only available in .050 steps, so I would rather see you go negative offset than over-volt it at every step.

If you are not stable at those settings you should:

ADD turbo voltage

if voltage gets over 1.35 or temps go over 80 reduce to x44 and reduce voltage.
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the negative offset essentially reduces the voltage of the CPU at every "state" (16-45), where turbo voltage will only affect the top multiplier (45)

I would prefer you set a +.005 offset, but you said it was only available in .050 steps, so I would rather see you go negative offset than over-volt it at every step.

If you are not stable at those settings you should:

ADD turbo voltage

if voltage gets over 1.35 or temps go over 80 reduce to x44 and reduce voltage.

One more thing before I go mucking around in there. What should I do with the LLC level? Its the only other part of the guide that i really dont know what hes talking about.

Thanks for the help by the way.
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well, a few hours in to the prime test i got a bsod. any suggestions? i only use the pc for gaming. would it be safe to say that this is ok seeing as how its only suggested to run a hour test for normal use and its fine for that long.

also, when adjusting the voltage should i be changing the turbo voltage or the offset voltage? i was changing the offset to a negative value in order to get lower voltage.

edit: i was really hoping to get to 4.5ghz. im just going to start from the beginning with turbo voltage at +0.004v and the offset at +0.005v and see how high i can get it from there. starting at 35 multi and going to increase by 1 after every 10 minute test until i bsod. once i reach that point i will increase the turbo voltage by 1 spot and see how it goes.

edit 2: at 35 multi my voltage stays at 1.280. at 36 multi my vcore goes up to 1.320. which seems like a pretty big leap. should i continue the test or ?? btw this chip is about a couple of years old if that matters any.

sorry for all the questions but like i said first time oc'er
Edited by nubo - 10/16/13 at 3:26pm
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well, a few hours in to the prime test i got a bsod. any suggestions? i only use the pc for gaming. would it be safe to say that this is ok seeing as how its only suggested to run a hour test for normal use and its fine for that long.

also, when adjusting the voltage should i be changing the turbo voltage or the offset voltage? i was changing the offset to a negative value in order to get lower voltage.

edit: i was really hoping to get to 4.5ghz. im just going to start from the beginning with turbo voltage at +0.004v and the offset at +0.005v and see how high i can get it from there. starting at 35 multi and going to increase by 1 after every 10 minute test until i bsod. once i reach that point i will increase the turbo voltage by 1 spot and see how it goes.

edit 2: at 35 multi my voltage stays at 1.280. at 36 multi my vcore goes up to 1.320. which seems like a pretty big leap. should i continue the test or ?? btw this chip is about a couple of years old if that matters any.

sorry for all the questions but like i said first time oc'er

Whatever settings you were at when you got a BSOD in P95 are the ones you should be working with...you were close. You might try adding .005 to offset instead of turbo and test again. Also, yes, 1 hour is ok (not great) for a gaming PC, if you start getting unusual crashes or errors it is harder to diagnose because there is always the possibility it is your overclock. The guy that wrote the guide on the first page actually doesn't test for more than an hour either...you wont find his name on the club list because he doesn't bother with it himself.
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the negative offset essentially reduces the voltage of the CPU at every "state" (16-45), where turbo voltage will only affect the top multiplier (45)

I would prefer you set a +.005 offset, but you said it was only available in .050 steps, so I would rather see you go negative offset than over-volt it at every step.

If you are not stable at those settings you should:

ADD turbo voltage

if voltage gets over 1.35 or temps go over 80 reduce to x44 and reduce voltage.

One more thing before I go mucking around in there. What should I do with the LLC level? Its the only other part of the guide that i really dont know what hes talking about.

Thanks for the help by the way.

LLC can be left at level 3 for a good balance of overvolt protection and Vdroop compensation. You only need to move to level 2 or level 1 if you plan on going for a massive (read 5.0+) overclock where Vdroop is causing problems.

Edit to add: LLC is Load Line Calibration, it is designed into the chips by intel to let the chip sip a little less voltage when under full load. If you watch your VCore closely when you first put it under full load, you will notice it droop down some depending on what level you have it set at, where level 5 will droop the most, and level 1 essentially eliminates this droop. I dont know if this analogy will make sense, but imagine you are preparing to merge onto a fast moving highway, you mash the gas harder while you are accelerating, therefore sipping more gas, once you reach your desired speed, you ease off the gas pedal a bit to maintain speed. Well your chip kind of does the same thing, except it goes from 16-45 in like .000000000001 seconds and sips mV instead of gas. Level 3 is fine for most mild-moderate overclocks, and particularly on some ASRock boards that are plagued with the voltage read out issues like mine is (Z77 ext 4 )
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Whatever settings you were at when you got a BSOD in P95 are the ones you should be working with...you were close. You might try adding .005 to offset instead of turbo and test again. Also, yes, 1 hour is ok (not great) for a gaming PC, if you start getting unusual crashes or errors it is harder to diagnose because there is always the possibility it is your overclock. The guy that wrote the guide on the first page actually doesn't test for more than an hour either...you wont find his name on the club list because he doesn't bother with it himself.

i never messed with the turbo voltage except for setting it to +0.004v from the default value of auto.

i only changed the offset to a negative value because it would already be running at a high voltage. turbo increases the voltage when at full load correct? i didnt want MORE voltage.

when i had turbo at +0.004v and offset at +0.005v at 36x my vcore would be at 1.32 so i didnt think i would want more voltage therefor i changed the offset to a negative value to combat this.

i've decided to wait for 4.5ghz and will sit at 4.3ghz until i get better cooling. as you can see in my 1st post it got way too hot for my liking at 4.5ghz.

these are the settings im settling on for now with a HWMonitor shot after 1 hour of pime95. any suggestions on what i could change? either tonight or tomorrow i will be letting it run for 6+ hours but for now im BEAT.






BTW A HUGE THANKS FOR THE HELP AND PUTTING UP WITH ME smile.gif
Edited by nubo - 10/16/13 at 6:34pm
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Maybe I can give some insight on the PCH voltage. This is the core voltage for the southbridge. On Socket 1366 systems it was best set to 1.18-1.24 V while 1.1V was default like on the present chips.

On my GA-X79-UD5 board it is also 1.1V, but it definetly requires to be set at 1.18 at least, too, when running the board with Strap 1.25 enabled (BClock 125). Less voltage caused crashes of the nVidia graphics driver, and sudden crasheds of the chipset's USB controller. Not funny if your mosue and keyboard stop working. xp

Also caused BSODs in overclock stability testing with strap 1.25 enabled.

Admittedly my info comes from an X79 system but the southbridges are pretty closely related.

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How does this look, only did it for 30 odd minutes but will do it over a longer period when i have time to.



I wonder why it's not at 4.4ghz though and just below, assume it's to do with the bus speed which should be 100 as i haven't touched it at all.

/edit Just noticed i didn't disable the spread spectrum, so that'll be why.
Edited by dakaiez - 10/18/13 at 3:53am
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How does this look, only did it for 30 odd minutes but will do it over a longer period when i have time to.



I wonder why it's not at 4.4ghz though and just below, assume it's to do with the bus speed which should be 100 as i haven't touched it at all.

/edit Just noticed i didn't disable the spread spectrum, so that'll be why.

Yea i was just going to tell you to disable spread spectrum.

You can probably bump it up to 45 w/ that voltage. What offset and Turbo are you using?
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Yea i was just going to tell you to disable spread spectrum.

You can probably bump it up to 45 w/ that voltage. What offset and Turbo are you using?

Yeah i've disabled it now.

Erm it's as listed in the starting post Offset +0.005v and Turbo Boost +0.004v

Pretty much followed as mentioned, although with CPU Load-Line Calibration i have it on Level 5 when i tried 2-3 i got 3.5+ as vcore where as on 5 it gets to 3.12 as max.

I did have it as 4.6ghz at one point via the built in overclock but it was getting to hot, so i might try a 4.5/4.6 and see how it is seeing as im doing it manually now.

This is with a H80 cooler although i am missing a few case fans as they stopped working and i haven't replaced which will reduce the temp as i've only got one at the front intake and the 2 attatched to the H80 currently.
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