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Ok, i'm actually amazed now..

Raised my multiplier up to 45 and set the LLC to 5 (don't really understand this one though, tbh..)
Ran Prime95 for 2 hours now and got way better results then when i ran on 4.0Ghz.



Temps really look better and are even acceptable, no? VCore looks better to, but i guess i can get better results?
And to run all day long, 4.5Ghz is ok, or can i try to go higher?
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Ok, i'm actually amazed now..

Raised my multiplier up to 45 and set the LLC to 5 (don't really understand this one though, tbh..)
Ran Prime95 for 2 hours now and got way better results then when i ran on 4.0Ghz.



Temps really look better and are even acceptable, no? VCore looks better to, but i guess i can get better results?
And to run all day long, 4.5Ghz is ok, or can i try to go higher?

that voltage looks much more acceptable, temps are allot better too. you could very well go higher if you want. try going up in multiplier and stress test, if it fails, drop back down one multiplier or raise the turbo. try to stay under 1.35v or so and under 85c.

edit to add: dont feel pressured to go higher, you have a good overclock with good voltage and good temps. Save your current settings under bios while they are solid like this, sometimes going higher might require a clear cmos when things go bad, and you don't want to loose the work you have already put in.
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Ok, i'm actually amazed now..

Raised my multiplier up to 45 and set the LLC to 5 (don't really understand this one though, tbh..)
Ran Prime95 for 2 hours now and got way better results then when i ran on 4.0Ghz.



Temps really look better and are even acceptable, no? VCore looks better to, but i guess i can get better results?
And to run all day long, 4.5Ghz is ok, or can i try to go higher?

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Ok, i'm actually amazed now..

Raised my multiplier up to 45 and set the LLC to 5 (don't really understand this one though, tbh..)
Ran Prime95 for 2 hours now and got way better results then when i ran on 4.0Ghz.
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Temps really look better and are even acceptable, no? VCore looks better to, but i guess i can get better results?
And to run all day long, 4.5Ghz is ok, or can i try to go higher?

Like the above posts say, your voltage and temps are way better. I'd say save this one as a "stable" and make another experimental profile where you see how high you can go on your current temps.
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Hi all!

Thanks for the guide. I've tried to overclock my CPU following the guide with the offset method and it gave me some problems with high temperatures at 85 degrees celsius and vcore that went up to over 1.3 when using a multipel of only 40 and offset voltage to +0.005.

I then switched to fixed mode and put down 1.275 as voltage.

When I stress test in prime95 I got mucb better degrees (70 celsius). This was even on a multipel of 42. I tried to higher to 44 but that went to BSOD with the output 0x124.

It feels quite stable now so I might just stay with fixed and the current voltage because I still want my computer cool enough for many hours of Battlefield 4. But I have questions about how this fixed vcore thing works. When I am in somewhat idle in windows CPU-Z shows that I have a voltage of 1.24, but when I stress test the voltage drops to 1.16 - 1.17. I guess that this has to do with vdroop and LLC (currently set at value 2). But it all feels a bit strange that when I put my CPU under heavy load the voltage lowers down from the fixed setting, and when I raise my multiple to 44 I get a BSOD that would indicate too little vcore? I mean, if it drops down it would men that 1.275 as a fixed value would be enough.

In offset mode it skyrocketed from vcore 1.0 and up to 1.3 instead.

This is all very confusing, but even if I don't get how this works is it safe to say that I should just stay with 4.2 ghz and the current settings?

Edit: My motherboard is an Asrock Z68 gen3 extreme 3 and my CPU is an i5 2500k. As a cooler I use the Hyper 212 EVO and I have a good fan setup in my case.
Edited by Pansar - 10/29/13 at 4:45am
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Hi all!

Thanks for the guide. I've tried to overclock my CPU following the guide with the offset method and it gave me some problems with high temperatures at 85 degrees celsius and vcore that went up to over 1.3 when using a multipel of only 40 and offset voltage to +0.005.

I then switched to fixed mode and put down 1.275 as voltage.

When I stress test in prime95 I got mucb better degrees (70 celsius). This was even on a multipel of 42. I tried to higher to 44 but that went to BSOD with the output 0x124.

It feels quite stable now so I might just stay with fixed and the current voltage because I still want my computer cool enough for many hours of Battlefield 4. But I have questions about how this fixed vcore thing works. When I am in somewhat idle in windows CPU-Z shows that I have a voltage of 1.24, but when I stress test the voltage drops to 1.69 - 1.7. I guess that this has to do with vdroop and LLC (currently at 2). But it all feels a bit strange that when I put my CPU under heavy load the voltage lowers down from the fixed setting, and when I raise my multiple to 44 I get a BSOD that would indicate too little vcore? I mean, if it drops down it would men that 1.275 as a fixed value would be enough.

In offset mode it skyrocketed from vcore 1.0 and up to 1.3 instead.

This is all very confusing, but even if I don't get how this works is it safe to say that I should just stay with 4.2 ghz and the current settings?

Offset mode will be more gentle on your chip if you can get it right. You mentioned using offset voltage of .005, but you dont mention turbo. You dont have turbo voltage set to "auto" do you?
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Offset mode will be more gentle on your chip if you can get it right. You mentioned using offset voltage of .005, but you dont mention turbo. You dont have turbo voltage set to "auto" do you?

Sorry, I forgot to mention that. turbo was set to +0.004 (lowest available).
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Offset mode will be more gentle on your chip if you can get it right. You mentioned using offset voltage of .005, but you dont mention turbo. You dont have turbo voltage set to "auto" do you?

Sorry, I forgot to mention that. turbo was set to +0.004 (lowest available).

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What you can try is just what we suggested to Agoriaz, use negative offset voltage and drop LLC to level 4 or 5. That will drop your vcore and consequently your temperatures. You may still see higher than desirable max VCore, but mind you it is only there for an incredibly brief period, not long enough to heat the processor up to what you would expect from higher vovltages, before it droops down to your "loaded VCore".

I use the analogy of merging on the interstate to explain LLC, while you are accelerating to get on the interstate, you hit the gas pedal a little harder...once you have matched speed with the cars around you, you can back off the gas pedal a little bit to maintain. Same thing with your processor, it ramps up quickly and requires a little extra vcore to do so, and then it can back off to maintain speed. LLC5 would be merging on a slow moving interstate, but matching speed fast....LLC1 is like gradually merging onto the autobahn.
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What you can try is just what we suggested to Agoriaz, use negative offset voltage and drop LLC to level 4 or 5. That will drop your vcore and consequently your temperatures. You may still see higher than desirable max VCore, but mind you it is only there for an incredibly brief period, not long enough to heat the processor up to what you would expect from higher vovltages, before it droops down to your "loaded VCore".

I use the analogy of merging on the interstate to explain LLC, while you are accelerating to get on the interstate, you hit the gas pedal a little harder...once you have matched speed with the cars around you, you can back off the gas pedal a little bit to maintain. Same thing with your processor, it ramps up quickly and requires a little extra vcore to do so, and then it can back off to maintain speed. LLC5 would be merging on a slow moving interstate, but matching speed fast....LLC1 is like gradually merging onto the autobahn.

Very greatful for your replys! I think I have a better understanding how it works now. smile.gif

I will try changing offset and LLC. Maybe try an offset of -0.1 as a start? I am not home at my gaming computer at the moment so I can't try it out right away.

Btw. I guess you were referring to CoUg4r above and not Agoriaz?
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Ok, i'm actually amazed now..

Raised my multiplier up to 45 and set the LLC to 5 (don't really understand this one though, tbh..)
Ran Prime95 for 2 hours now and got way better results then when i ran on 4.0Ghz.



Temps really look better and are even acceptable, no? VCore looks better to, but i guess i can get better results?
And to run all day long, 4.5Ghz is ok, or can i try to go higher?

What is your offset set at? Did you change to negative as well?
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thumb.gif

What you can try is just what we suggested to Agoriaz, use negative offset voltage and drop LLC to level 4 or 5. That will drop your vcore and consequently your temperatures. You may still see higher than desirable max VCore, but mind you it is only there for an incredibly brief period, not long enough to heat the processor up to what you would expect from higher vovltages, before it droops down to your "loaded VCore".

I use the analogy of merging on the interstate to explain LLC, while you are accelerating to get on the interstate, you hit the gas pedal a little harder...once you have matched speed with the cars around you, you can back off the gas pedal a little bit to maintain. Same thing with your processor, it ramps up quickly and requires a little extra vcore to do so, and then it can back off to maintain speed. LLC5 would be merging on a slow moving interstate, but matching speed fast....LLC1 is like gradually merging onto the autobahn.

Very greatful for your replys! I think I have a better understanding how it works now. smile.gif

I will try changing offset and LLC. Maybe try an offset of -0.1 as a start? I am not home at my gaming computer at the moment so I can't try it out right away.

Btw. I guess you were referring to CoUg4r above and not Agoriaz?
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Ok, i'm actually amazed now..

Raised my multiplier up to 45 and set the LLC to 5 (don't really understand this one though, tbh..)
Ran Prime95 for 2 hours now and got way better results then when i ran on 4.0Ghz.



Temps really look better and are even acceptable, no? VCore looks better to, but i guess i can get better results?
And to run all day long, 4.5Ghz is ok, or can i try to go higher?

What is your offset set at? Did you change to negative as well?

Yes, CoUg4r...my bad!

My offset is +.020 and +.121 turbo, but I also am running a 50x for my daily overclock. When I want to run 45x, I use a -.060 offset and +.004 because +.005offset and +.004 turbo gets me way more voltage than is needed. What voltage you require really depends on what your goals are and what type of cooling solution you are using.
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